* UTF-8 still a problem @ 2003-05-29 11:25 Ichimusai [not found] ` <84r86hzw2t.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Ichimusai @ 2003-05-29 11:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Emacs 21.2.1 Gnus v0.15 (Oort) Following the help from Kai in <84smre8zw7.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> I have installed ucs-tables and added the following lines in my .emacs: (require 'ucs-tables) (unify-8859-on-encoding-mode 1) But nothing happens. When I view a UTF-8 encoded post in a newsgroup it comes out at two byte chars for me, when I follow up to such message, my follow up will contain the UTF-8 chars quoted and my own in ISO-8859-1. That's rather bad. I have gone through .emacs and .gnus and eliminated all things that does anything with charset I can find, but to no effect. I would be very happy if someone could talk me through getting support for UTF-8 to work. I would not mind to be able to post in it sometimes myself either, such as when responding to someone who post in UTF-8. -- AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai AOL: Ichimusai1972 MSN: Ichimusai IRC: Ichimusai#AmigaSWE@IRCnet URL: http://www.ichimusai.org/ "The backbone of surprise is fusing speed with secrecy." -- Von Clausewitz (1780-1831) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* Re: UTF-8 still a problem [not found] ` <84r86hzw2t.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> @ 2003-05-29 19:41 ` Ichimusai [not found] ` <84k7c9hw74.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Ichimusai @ 2003-05-29 19:41 UTC (permalink / raw) kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: > Ichimusai <ichi@ichimusai.org> writes: > >> (require 'ucs-tables) >> (unify-8859-on-encoding-mode 1) >> >> But nothing happens. When I view a UTF-8 encoded post in a newsgroup >> it comes out at two byte chars for me, when I follow up to such >> message, my follow up will contain the UTF-8 chars quoted and my own >> in ISO-8859-1. > > What happens if you hit `1 g' on the article and enter utf-8 as the > charset? No difference at all. -- AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai AOL: Ichimusai1972 MSN: Ichimusai IRC: Ichimusai#AmigaSWE@IRCnet URL: http://www.ichimusai.org/ "I shall not waste my days in trying to prolong them." -- Ian L. Fleming (1908-1964) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* Re: UTF-8 still a problem [not found] ` <84k7c9hw74.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> @ 2003-05-31 6:55 ` Ichimusai [not found] ` <84d6hz2yhm.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Ichimusai @ 2003-05-31 6:55 UTC (permalink / raw) kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: > Ichimusai <ichi@ichimusai.org> writes: > >> kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: >> >>> What happens if you hit `1 g' on the article and enter utf-8 as the >>> charset? >> >> No difference at all. > > Hm. Does Emacs itself grok UTF-8? Can you create a UTF-8 file and do > C-x RET c utf-8 RET C-x C-f /path/to/the/file RET? Then you should > be able to see if it works. For some reason it doesn't. It makes no difference at all. There must be something broken with the support in my Emacs, but I can't figure out what it is... -- AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai AOL: Ichimusai1972 MSN: Ichimusai IRC: Ichimusai#AmigaSWE@IRCnet URL: http://www.ichimusai.org/ "If everything seems under control, you're just not going fast enough." -- Mario Andretti ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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* Re: UTF-8 still a problem [not found] ` <84he7bdw7a.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> @ 2003-05-31 15:07 ` Ichimusai 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Ichimusai @ 2003-05-31 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw) kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: > Ichimusai <ichi@ichimusai.org> writes: > >> kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes: >> >>> I don't understand what you mean by "difference". For a difference, >>> two things are required, but I don't know what they are. (One of >>> then is probably C-x RET c utf-8 C-x C-f /path/to/utf-8/file RET.) >> >> It looks as if I just opened it and viewed it in ISO 8859 without >> trying to tell Emacs it is a utf-8 encoded file. The multibyte >> characters are not changed into something intelligeble. > > Ah. So you mean that > > C-x RET c latin-1 RET C-x C-f /path/to/file RET > > and > > C-x RET c utf-8 RET C-x C-f /path/to/file RET > > produce the same visible result? Yes, both look like it is trying to do Latin-1. > That's strange. What kind of file are we talking about? The test file you recommended earlier. And some posts I saved in UTF. >>> Maybe post in gnu.emacs.help that UTF-8 isn't working and describe >>> what you do, what you see, what you expect to see. >> >> I have trouble with even describeing the problem since I don't know >> what is the problem. Am I doing something I should not? Or missing >> to do something I should not. Is my version of Emacs requiring >> something special in .emacs to turn on MULE or what it is that >> handle different charsets. > > Emacs 21.2 has Mule turned on by default. So unless you do "emacs > --unibyte" or set the variable default-enable-multibyte-characters, > it will be on. (Even with those things, Mule will be on, but behave > differently.) Okay, I am not messing around with any of those. > Hm. Also (standard-display-european 1) will do bad things. Don't > use it. I had that set before, but commented it out some fortnights ago. > What happens with the C-x RET c utf-8 RET C-x C-f /path/to/file RET > command in an Emacs started with "emacs -q -no-site-file"? Damn. Though I do not have all the glyphs, now the encoding looks right. I am running RedHat, is it possible they got a site-file somewhere that is screwing this up? Where is such a file usually located? -- AA #769 ICQ: 1645566 Yahoo: Ichimusai AOL: Ichimusai1972 MSN: Ichimusai IRC: Ichimusai#AmigaSWE@IRCnet URL: http://www.ichimusai.org/ We're almost equals I purr to show I love you Want to smell my butt. -- Cat Haiku ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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