From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/2992 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mats_L=F6fdahl?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Two IMAP problems Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 20:56:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138669231 17216 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:00:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:00:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:31:32 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed.gazeta.pl!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!c213-89-193-148.cm-upc.chello.SE!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: c213-89-193-148.cm-upc.chello.se (213.89.193.148) Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1063652185 26067418 213.89.193.148 (16 [83733]) X-Attribution: Mats User-Agent: Gnus/5.1002 (Gnus v5.10.2) Emacs/21.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:kkd+DSqcxnV1gg9LqyyJBA3ixMA= Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:3133 Original-Lines: 73 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 3133 Tue Jan 17 17:31:32 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:2992 Archived-At: Simon Josefsson writes: > Mats Löfdahl writes: > >> Hm. I guess I'll want to find a way to manipulate the group buffer so >> something like "imap:" or "xxx:" is substituted for the ugly >> "nnimap+xxx:INBOX." part. > > If you name the secondary method "", it will look like > nnimap:INBOX.foo. Getting rid of the INBOX part isn't possible, I > think, unless you configure the server to work differently (it is > possible in recent Cyrus IMAPD, I believe). I realize that. I was thinking about how the group is presented in the *Group* buffer, not what it is actually called on the server. But that's a really minor thing. And probably not very practical, since it would make it confusing when gnus asks for a group name as a target for moving or copying a message. >>>> The IMAP protocol does not support editing of messages. >>> >>> Oh. That's a real drawback, isn't it? Not that I edit the contents >>> of messages very much. But I often want to repair threads with "T >>> ^", which does not seem to be possible, then. >> >> Hmmm. So the problem is with the IMAP protocoll. Nothing much we can >> do about that, I guess. >> >> But it appears you can move messages between nnimap groups and other >> mail groups. Wouldn't it be possible to do it in a more roundabout >> way, so you move the message to be edited to some temporary group on >> another backend, do the editing, and then move it back. Or maybe do >> this with copying rather than moving, so it doesn't get lost if there >> are other problems while you're doing it. Like, copy out of the >> nnimap, edit, copy back in, then remove original message. > > Yup, this would be possible. Not implemented yet though. After writing my message, I actually thought I remembered a discussion along those lines a long time ago. >> [...] >> I see no error messages and it even says that it's done expunging. But >> the deleted messages are still there. > > Hm, and the B DEL command really sent the delete command to the server > earlier? If so, it seems weird that the server doesn't says anothing > more at the EXPUNGE command, it should say which articles was marked > \Deleted and remove them. > >> They are marked "Y" when I enter the group again with "C-u SPC". > > Y? If so, then you didn't delete the message, you scored it down. > Try B DEL on the article instead. Oh. Right. I've been pressing "d" (It's a "d", so it has to mean "delete"... :-) and "E". Now that I try B DEL it works. >> (Don't know what the "NOT SINCE 31-Aug-2003" means. I'd entered that >> group both yesterday and earlier today.) > > I think it means you have article expiring enabled, and that Gnus > searches for eligible articles to expire. Can I use the expire features to get the messages deleted properly? I mean, so that when they expire, it's like if B DEL was pressed. -- Mats Löfdahl