* Re: How to use own newer version of gnus at $HOME [not found] ` <8jfhdv3w3gk.fsf@kamel.stud.ntnu.no> @ 2004-04-30 1:15 ` Jesper Harder [not found] ` <8jfpt9pjx0i.fsf@kamel.stud.ntnu.no> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Jesper Harder @ 2004-04-30 1:15 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Tobias Borsting <larstobi@itea.ntnu.no> writes: > I've unpacked, compiled and run emacs 5.10. The problem is that it hangs > when it comes to "Processing mail from ~/.emacs-mail-crash-box..." which > I guess doesn't exist. Press `C-g' and show the resulting backtrace. > Are there any special things to consider when upgrading from version > 5.6 go 5.10? I don't know. A lot of people have tested upgrading from 5.8/5.9 to 5.10 -- but 5.6 is very old. You could be one the few people who have tried it. -- Jesper Harder <http://purl.org/harder/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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* Re: How to use own newer version of gnus at $HOME [not found] ` <8jfpt9pjx0i.fsf@kamel.stud.ntnu.no> @ 2004-05-01 12:40 ` Jesper Harder 2004-05-01 19:30 ` Lars Tobias Borsting 2004-05-03 8:12 ` Chris Hall 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Jesper Harder @ 2004-05-01 12:40 UTC (permalink / raw) Lars Tobias Borsting <larstobi@itea.ntnu.no> writes: >> Press `C-g' and show the resulting backtrace. > > I pressed C-g but it didn't pop up any bactrace, it just went on with > it's next task. Do `M-x toggle-debug-on-quit' first. >> I don't know. A lot of people have tested upgrading from 5.8/5.9 to >> 5.10 -- but 5.6 is very old. You could be one the few people who have >> tried it. > > I have got the news stuff working, but I can't seem to get the mail. Well, the mail feching functions changed a lot between 5.6 and 5.8. You probably need to update your settings to the "new" functions. > How can I find out which movemail-program is being used, or where to > find one and specify it? There's `mail-source-movemail-program'. -- Jesper Harder <http://purl.org/harder/> ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: How to use own newer version of gnus at $HOME 2004-05-01 12:40 ` Jesper Harder @ 2004-05-01 19:30 ` Lars Tobias Borsting 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Lars Tobias Borsting @ 2004-05-01 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) Thanx, Jesper, I now get backtrace up. >> How can I find out which movemail-program is being used, or where to >> find one and specify it? >There's `mail-source-movemail-program'. First of all, I don't find this program when typing M-x mail-source-... I only get these possible completions: mail-source-delete-old-incoming mail-source-report-new-mail >> I have got the news stuff working, but I can't seem to get the mail. >Well, the mail feching functions changed a lot between 5.6 and 5.8. >You probably need to update your settings to the "new" functions. OK, but I don't see any difference between the different manuals on the nnml-backend. Here's my mail source settings: (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods '(nnml "")) I don't see anything wrong with it, but it doesn't work. One thing: I use maildir as my incoming mail folder at $HOME/mail/INBOX, but my $MAIL environment variable says "echo $MAIL" is "$HOME/mail/INBOX" and not "$HOME/mail/INBOX/". But that was no problem with version 5.6. Here's the backtrace from emacs-mail-crashbox at startup: ------------ START ---------------- Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit) call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*<4>> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box") apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*<4>> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")) mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "~/.emacs-mail-crash-box") mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>"[file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil) nnml-request-scan(nil "") gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml "")) gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil) gnus-read-active-file(nil nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [dont-connect did-connect gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-request-create-group "queue" (nndraft "") "drafts" (nndraft "") gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-grouplens gnus-agent level] 4) gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) call-interactively(gnus) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) recursive-edit() byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (quit)) call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box") apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")) mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "~/.emacs-mail-crash-box") mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>"[file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil) nnml-request-scan(nil "") gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml "")) gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil) gnus-read-active-file(nil nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [dont-connect did-connect gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-request-create-group "queue" (nndraft "") "drafts" (nndraft "") gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-grouplens gnus-agent level] 4) gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) call-interactively(gnus) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) ------------------ END -------------------- And here's the one I get after pressing g in the Group buffer when emacs-mail-crash-box is terminated: ------------------ START ------------------ Debugger entered--Lisp error: (quit) call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*<5>> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box") apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*<5>> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")) mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "~/.emacs-mail-crash-box") mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>"[file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil) nnml-request-scan(nil "") gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml "")) gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil) gnus-read-active-file() gnus-group-get-new-news(nil) call-interactively(gnus-group-get-new-news) recursive-edit() byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [debugger-buffer debugger-args noninteractive debugger-batch-max-lines middlestart buffer-read-only pop-to-buffer debugger-mode debugger-setup-buffer count-lines 2 "...\n" message buffer-string kill-emacs debug backtrace-debug 3 t debugger-reenable "" nil recursive-edit standard-output inhibit-trace] 3) debug(error (quit)) call-process("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box") apply(call-process ("/store/libexec/emacs/21.3/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/movemail" nil #<buffer *mail source loss*> nil "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "/home/others/homes/la/larstobi/.emacs-mail-crash-box")) mail-source-movemail("/home/homes/la/larstobi/mail/INBOX" "~/.emacs-mail-crash-box") mail-source-fetch-file((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>"" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) mail-source-fetch((file) #[(file orig-file) "<non printable characters snipped out>"" [file orig-file nnmail-split-incoming nnml-save-mail nil nnmail-get-split-group (file) nnml-active-number] 7]) nnmail-get-new-mail(nnml nnml-save-nov "~/Mail/" nil) nnml-request-scan(nil "") gnus-request-scan(nil (nnml "")) gnus-read-active-file-1((nnml "") nil) gnus-read-active-file(nil nil) gnus-setup-news(nil nil nil) byte-code("<non printable characters snipped out>" [dont-connect did-connect gnus-startup-file gnus-current-startup-file gnus-slave gnus-use-dribble-file gnus-group-quit gnus-run-hooks gnus-startup-hook gnus-make-newsrc-file gnus-dribble-read-file bbb-login add-hook gnus-summary-mode-hook gnus-grouplens-mode gnus-request-create-group "queue" (nndraft "") "drafts" (nndraft "") gnus-setup-news nil gnus-setup-news-hook gnus-start-draft-setup gnus-group-list-groups gnus-group-first-unread-group gnus-configure-windows group gnus-group-set-mode-line gnus-started-hook gnus-use-grouplens gnus-agent level] 4) gnus-1(nil nil nil) gnus(nil) call-interactively(gnus) execute-extended-command(nil) call-interactively(execute-extended-command) -------------------- END --------------------- Thanx for the assitance! Regards, Lars Tobias Borsting ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: How to use own newer version of gnus at $HOME [not found] ` <8jfpt9pjx0i.fsf@kamel.stud.ntnu.no> 2004-05-01 12:40 ` Jesper Harder @ 2004-05-03 8:12 ` Chris Hall 2004-05-03 11:38 ` Lars Tobias Borsting 1 sibling, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread From: Chris Hall @ 2004-05-03 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw) [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1376 bytes --] Lars Tobias Borsting <larstobi@itea.ntnu.no> writes: >> Press `C-g' and show the resulting backtrace. > > I pressed C-g but it didn't pop up any bactrace, it just went on with > it's next task. > Perhaps doing M-x set-variable RET debug-on-signal RET t would help with that? > How can I find out which movemail-program is being used, or where to > find one and specify it? > I use fetchmail piped to procmail *outside* of Emacs, and have procmail split my mail into separate groups, so I'm not using an Emacs-related program, but from recent reading of the Gnus Info (I just last week set all this up under Gnus 5.10), I think that the default program is supplied by Emacs, and called 'movemail', oddly enough ;-). If you are on an *nix box, 'which movemail' or 'locate movemail' might help. However, IIRC, Emacs 'movemail' gets from the local *nix spool file and outputs in RMAIL format - dunno if that is what you wanted, or if movemail can be persuaded to output into a different format. According to 'C-h f': (------------ snip! ------------------) mail-source-movemail-program's value is nil Documentation: If non-nil, name of program for fetching new mail. You can customize this variable. Defined in `mail-source'. (------------ /snip! ------------------) HTH, +Chris -- In the fight between you and the world, back the world. -- Frank Zappa (1940 - 1993) [-- Attachment #2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 231 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
* Re: How to use own newer version of gnus at $HOME 2004-05-03 8:12 ` Chris Hall @ 2004-05-03 11:38 ` Lars Tobias Borsting 0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread From: Lars Tobias Borsting @ 2004-05-03 11:38 UTC (permalink / raw) Chris Hall <hall.cj@verizon.net> writes: > I use fetchmail piped to procmail *outside* of Emacs, and have procmail > split my mail into separate groups, so I'm not using an Emacs-related > program, but from recent reading of the Gnus Info (I just last week set > all this up under Gnus 5.10), I think that the default program is > supplied by Emacs, and called 'movemail', oddly enough ;-). If you are > on an *nix box, 'which movemail' or 'locate movemail' might help. OK, thanks! Somehow it just worked after changing my mail source from maildir to mbox format. I guess the gnus nnml-backend v5.10 had problems with the source being in maildir format. One other strange thing though, if I remove the files from $HOME/Mail/mail/misc/ and move in mail from my gnus v5.6 after using the directory with v5.10, the Summary Buffer still displays the new list of articles/mails. That is kinda strange, because I just deleted them and replaced them with some other ones, it must hence be cached somewhere. Where does gnus store its Summary Buffer cache? I haven't been able to locate where it caches the mail summary. And how can I force gnus to re-read the folder and generate a new Summary Buffer? Regards, Lars Tobias Borsting ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 5+ messages in thread
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