* how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? @ 2007-10-22 19:13 Randy Yates 2007-10-25 11:40 ` Randy Yates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Randy Yates @ 2007-10-22 19:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english I think the subject says it all. I hate any editor "automatically" doing anything with my text. -- % Randy Yates % "The dreamer, the unwoken fool - %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % in dreams, no pain will kiss the brow..." %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Eldorado Overture', *Eldorado*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-22 19:13 how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? Randy Yates @ 2007-10-25 11:40 ` Randy Yates 2007-10-26 7:49 ` Torben Knudsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Randy Yates @ 2007-10-25 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: > I think the subject says it all. I hate any editor "automatically" doing > anything with my text. Is this difficult? It also changed when I upgraded to the development version of gnus. -- % Randy Yates % "Watching all the days go by... %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % Who are you and who am I?" %%% 919-577-9882 % 'Mission (A World Record)', %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % *A New World Record*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-25 11:40 ` Randy Yates @ 2007-10-26 7:49 ` Torben Knudsen 2007-10-26 19:07 ` Randy Yates 2007-12-28 0:10 ` Randy Yates 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Torben Knudsen @ 2007-10-26 7:49 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english >>>>> "Randy" == Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: Randy> Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: >> I think the subject says it all. I hate any editor "automatically" >> doing anything with my text. auto-fill-mode is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'. (auto-fill-mode &optional ARG) Toggle Auto Fill mode. With arg, turn Auto Fill mode on if and only if arg is positive. In Auto Fill mode, inserting a space at a column beyond `current-fill-column' automatically breaks the line at a previous space. The value of `normal-auto-fill-function' specifies the function to use for `auto-fill-function' when turning Auto Fill mode on. -- Associate Prof. Ph.D Torben Knudsen Phone : (+45) 9635 8670 Section of Automation and Control, Email : tk@es.aau.dk Department of Electronic Systems, Aalborg University Fredrik Bajersvej 7 DK-9220 Aalborg Ø Denmark ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-26 7:49 ` Torben Knudsen @ 2007-10-26 19:07 ` Randy Yates 2007-10-26 20:35 ` Reiner Steib 2007-12-28 0:10 ` Randy Yates 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Randy Yates @ 2007-10-26 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes: >>>>>> "Randy" == Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: > > Randy> Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: >>> I think the subject says it all. I hate any editor "automatically" >>> doing anything with my text. > > auto-fill-mode is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'. > (auto-fill-mode &optional ARG) > > Toggle Auto Fill mode. > With arg, turn Auto Fill mode on if and only if arg is positive. > In Auto Fill mode, inserting a space at a column beyond `current-fill-column' > automatically breaks the line at a previous space. > > The value of `normal-auto-fill-function' specifies the function to use > for `auto-fill-function' when turning Auto Fill mode on. I guess the development version of gnus pays attention to this while the older version did not. -- % Randy Yates % "...the answer lies within your soul %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % 'cause no one knows which side %%% 919-577-9882 % the coin will fall." %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Big Wheels', *Out of the Blue*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-26 19:07 ` Randy Yates @ 2007-10-26 20:35 ` Reiner Steib 2007-10-27 17:33 ` Randy Yates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-10-26 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english On Fri, Oct 26 2007, Randy Yates wrote: >>>> I think the subject says it all. No, I don't understand the syntax-completion part. Please describe exactly what you mean. As `M-x gnus-bug RET' says: "Please describe the bug in annoying, painstaking detail." WRT auto-fill, `C-h i d m Message RET' (Message manual), `i auto-fill' leads directly to... ,----[ (info "(message)Various Message Variables") ] | `message-fill-column' | Local value for the column beyond which automatic line-wrapping | should happen for message buffers. If non-nil (the default), also | turn on auto-fill in message buffers. `---- > I guess the development version of gnus pays attention to this while the > older version did not. When upgrading you should always read GNUS-NEWS aka... ,----[ (info "(gnus)No Gnus") ] | * Changes in Message mode | | [...] | | * `auto-fill-mode' is enabled by default in Message mode. See | `message-fill-column'. *Note Message Headers: | (message)Various Message Variables. `---- Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-26 20:35 ` Reiner Steib @ 2007-10-27 17:33 ` Randy Yates 2007-10-27 20:21 ` Reiner Steib 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Randy Yates @ 2007-10-27 17:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > On Fri, Oct 26 2007, Randy Yates wrote: > >>>>> I think the subject says it all. > > No, I don't understand the syntax-completion part. Please describe > exactly what you mean. As `M-x gnus-bug RET' says: "Please describe > the bug in annoying, painstaking detail." Well I didn't consider it a bug so I didn't think I needed to make a bug report. By syntax-completion, I mean things such as automatic indentation after a <RET> that occurs when in certain programming language major modes. I thought that auto-filling may be part of a general syntax-completion methodology for the major/minor mode used by gnus for message editing. Since, as I stated, I don't like any editor I use to insert text "automagically" for me at any time, I would want this behavior disabled as well as auto-fill. > WRT auto-fill, `C-h i d m Message RET' (Message manual), `i auto-fill' > leads directly to... > ,----[ (info "(message)Various Message Variables") ] > | `message-fill-column' > | Local value for the column beyond which automatic line-wrapping > | should happen for message buffers. If non-nil (the default), also > | turn on auto-fill in message buffers. > `---- > >> I guess the development version of gnus pays attention to this while the >> older version did not. > > When upgrading you should always read GNUS-NEWS aka... Unless someone told me to read it, how would I know? By the way, is there a PDF of the updated manual for the gnus development version? -- % Randy Yates % "Maybe one day I'll feel her cold embrace, %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % and kiss her interface, %%% 919-577-9882 % til then, I'll leave her alone." %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Yours Truly, 2095', *Time*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-27 17:33 ` Randy Yates @ 2007-10-27 20:21 ` Reiner Steib 2007-10-27 21:19 ` Randy Yates 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-10-27 20:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english On Sat, Oct 27 2007, Randy Yates wrote: > Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: >> As `M-x gnus-bug RET' says: "Please describe the bug in annoying, >> painstaking detail." > Well I didn't consider it a bug so I didn't think I needed to make a > bug report. Nevertheless you can describe your problem/question/whatever in annoying, painstaking detail. > By syntax-completion, I mean things such as automatic indentation > after a <RET> that occurs when in certain programming language major > modes. I.e. you didn't observe this in message mode? > Since, as I stated, I don't like any editor I use to insert text > "automagically" for me at any time, I would want this behavior disabled > as well as auto-fill. I have enabled it by default because overlong lines are bad netiquette and most people like to have it on by default. Cf. the FAQ (info "(gnus)[5.2]"): "How to enable automatic word-wrap when composing messages?". >> When upgrading you should always read GNUS-NEWS aka... > > Unless someone told me to read it, how would I know? As you already guessed, the behavior changed since 5.10.*, so it's quite plausible to look under "New Features" in the manual or something names "*-NEWS" in the distribution tar-ball. Isn't it? > By the way, is there a PDF of the updated manual for the gnus > development version? In the source distribution, do... cd texi; make pdf Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-27 20:21 ` Reiner Steib @ 2007-10-27 21:19 ` Randy Yates 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Randy Yates @ 2007-10-27 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: > On Sat, Oct 27 2007, Randy Yates wrote: > >> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes: >>> As `M-x gnus-bug RET' says: "Please describe the bug in annoying, >>> painstaking detail." >> Well I didn't consider it a bug so I didn't think I needed to make a >> bug report. > > Nevertheless you can describe your problem/question/whatever in > annoying, painstaking detail. I could, yes. However, I won't. I will describe it with "sufficient" detail. If there is something you don't understand, ask for clarification. >> By syntax-completion, I mean things such as automatic indentation >> after a <RET> that occurs when in certain programming language major >> modes. > > I.e. you didn't observe this in message mode? The truth is, I *thought* I observed some sort of "syntax-completion" action (that wasn't just auto-filling) in message mode once, but I accidently deleted it so quickly I didn't get a chance to see what it was. >> Since, as I stated, I don't like any editor I use to insert text >> "automagically" for me at any time, I would want this behavior disabled >> as well as auto-fill. > > I have enabled it by default because overlong lines are bad netiquette > and most people like to have it on by default. Cf. the FAQ (info > "(gnus)[5.2]"): "How to enable automatic word-wrap when composing > messages?". I'm not questioning the validity of the default value, just asking how to turn it off. >>> When upgrading you should always read GNUS-NEWS aka... >> >> Unless someone told me to read it, how would I know? > > As you already guessed, the behavior changed since 5.10.*, so it's > quite plausible to look under "New Features" in the manual or > something names "*-NEWS" in the distribution tar-ball. Isn't it? A hell of a lot of things are plausible, if you have the time. >> By the way, is there a PDF of the updated manual for the gnus >> development version? > > In the source distribution, do... > > cd texi; make pdf A straightforward response to a simple question. Thanks. -- % Randy Yates % "How's life on earth? %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % ... What is it worth?" %%% 919-577-9882 % 'Mission (A World Record)', %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % *A New World Record*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: how to disable auto-filling and other syntax-completion actions in article editing mode? 2007-10-26 7:49 ` Torben Knudsen 2007-10-26 19:07 ` Randy Yates @ 2007-12-28 0:10 ` Randy Yates 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Randy Yates @ 2007-12-28 0:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: info-gnus-english Torben Knudsen <tk@es.aau.dk> writes: >>>>>> "Randy" == Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: > > Randy> Randy Yates <yates@ieee.org> writes: >>> I think the subject says it all. I hate any editor "automatically" >>> doing anything with my text. > > auto-fill-mode is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'. > (auto-fill-mode &optional ARG) > > Toggle Auto Fill mode. > With arg, turn Auto Fill mode on if and only if arg is positive. > In Auto Fill mode, inserting a space at a column beyond `current-fill-column' > automatically breaks the line at a previous space. > > The value of `normal-auto-fill-function' specifies the function to use > for `auto-fill-function' when turning Auto Fill mode on. A belated thanks! -- % Randy Yates % "The dreamer, the unwoken fool - %% Fuquay-Varina, NC % in dreams, no pain will kiss the brow..." %%% 919-577-9882 % %%%% <yates@ieee.org> % 'Eldorado Overture', *Eldorado*, ELO http://www.digitalsignallabs.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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