Re: Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g'

Re: Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g'

[Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen]

Ezequiel Birman <stormwatch@espiga4.com.ar> writes:

> I've configured gnus to only fetch my mail (with nnmail) when I press
> '1g' (and also at startup). Nevertheless, since I've added a new nntp
> binary server (Astraweb) gnus always wastes some precious seconds
> reading the active file from this server as you can see in the extract
> below. Is that unavoidable? This is from *Messages* after starting gnus:

If Gnus is fetching data from that server when you hit `1 g', then it
sounds likely that you have some group from that server on level 1.

> On a related note, and proably more important too, I can only browse
> through Astraweb's groups if I enter the *Server* buffer whereas I'd
> rather like to be able to have them in the Killed (or Zombie if new)
> Groups list so I can see them when I press 'A k'. Is this possible? I've
> tried recreating the active file with gnus-cache-generate-active, also
> gnus-group-find-new-groups (with one and two C-u prefixes) but I keep
> seeing only the groups from old servers (gmane, gwene, and my primary
> server individual.net)

I'm not quite sure I understand that at all.  Here it sounds like the
server isn't consulted at all, or your settings for new groups is
ignoring new groups from this server...

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Re: Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g'

[Ezequiel Birman]

>>>>> "Ezequiel" == Ezequiel Birman <stormwatch@espiga4.com.ar> writes:

    > *** note *** I was wondering why I got no replies to my original
    > message. It seems I posted on the wrong group gnu.emacs.gnus
    > although according to http://www.gnus.org/resources.html "The
    > gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup is the appropriate place to ask questions
    > on usage of released versions of Gnus." I thought gnu.emacs.gnus
    > was gatewayed to gmane.emacs.gnus.user but my message didn't
    > appear on searches.  *** end of note ***

    > I've configured gnus to only fetch my mail (with nnmail) when I
    > press '1g' (and also at startup). Nevertheless, since I've added a
    > new nntp binary server (Astraweb) gnus always wastes some precious
    > seconds reading the active file from this server as you can see in
    > the extract below. Is that unavoidable? This is from *Messages*
    > after starting gnus:

    > ,---- | Opening nnfolder server on archive...done | Opening nntp
    > server on news.gmane.org...done | Opening nntp server on
    > news.gwene.org...done | Opening nntp server on Astraweb US
    > SSL...done | Opening nnml server on david.espiga4.com.ar...done |
    > 165 new newsgroups have arrived | Checking new news...  | Reading
    > active file from Astraweb US SSL via nntp...  | Reading active
    > file from david.espiga4.com.ar via nnml...  | Reading incoming
    > mail from file...  `----

    > On a related note, and proably more important too, I can only
    > browse through Astraweb's groups if I enter the *Server* buffer
    > whereas I'd rather like to be able to have them in the Killed (or
    > Zombie if new) Groups list so I can see them when I press 'A
    > k'. Is this possible? I've tried recreating the active file with
    > gnus-cache-generate-active, also gnus-group-find-new-groups (with
    > one and two C-u prefixes) but I keep seeing only the groups from
    > old servers (gmane, gwene, and my primary server individual.net)

    > A list of pertinent variables:

    > gnus-activate-level 5 (changed from the default which is 6)
    > gnus-group-default-list-level 5 gnus-group-use-permanent-levels
    > nil gnus-level-default-subscribed 3
    > gnus-level-default-unsubscribed 6 gnus-level-killed 9
    > gnus-level-subscribed 5 gnus-level-unsubscribed 7
    > gnus-level-zombie 8 gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method
    > gnus-subscribe-zombies

    > Gnus v5.13

    > GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d
    > scroll bars) of 2013-01-11 on david.espiga4.com.ar

    > -- Ezequiel Birman

Anyone, at least a hint, please?

-- 
Ezequiel Birman

Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g'

[Ezequiel Birman]

*** note ***
I was wondering why I got no replies to my original message. It seems I
posted on the wrong group gnu.emacs.gnus although according to
http://www.gnus.org/resources.html "The gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup is the
appropriate place to ask questions on usage of released versions of
Gnus." I thought gnu.emacs.gnus was gatewayed to gmane.emacs.gnus.user
but my message didn't appear on searches.
*** end of note ***

I've configured gnus to only fetch my mail (with nnmail) when I press
'1g' (and also at startup). Nevertheless, since I've added a new nntp
binary server (Astraweb) gnus always wastes some precious seconds
reading the active file from this server as you can see in the extract
below. Is that unavoidable? This is from *Messages* after starting gnus:

,----
| Opening nnfolder server on archive...done
| Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done
| Opening nntp server on news.gwene.org...done
| Opening nntp server on Astraweb US SSL...done
| Opening nnml server on david.espiga4.com.ar...done
| 165 new newsgroups have arrived
| Checking new news...
| Reading active file from Astraweb US SSL via nntp...
| Reading active file from david.espiga4.com.ar via nnml...
| Reading incoming mail from file...
`----

On a related note, and proably more important too, I can only browse
through Astraweb's groups if I enter the *Server* buffer whereas I'd
rather like to be able to have them in the Killed (or Zombie if new)
Groups list so I can see them when I press 'A k'. Is this possible? I've
tried recreating the active file with gnus-cache-generate-active, also
gnus-group-find-new-groups (with one and two C-u prefixes) but I keep
seeing only the groups from old servers (gmane, gwene, and my primary
server individual.net)

A list of pertinent variables:

gnus-activate-level 5 (changed from the default which is 6) 
gnus-group-default-list-level 5
gnus-group-use-permanent-levels nil
gnus-level-default-subscribed 3
gnus-level-default-unsubscribed 6
gnus-level-killed 9
gnus-level-subscribed 5
gnus-level-unsubscribed 7
gnus-level-zombie 8
gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method gnus-subscribe-zombies

Gnus v5.13

GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll
bars) of 2013-01-11 on david.espiga4.com.ar

-- 
Ezequiel Birman

Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g'

[Ezequiel Birman]

I've configured gnus to only fetch my mail (with nnmail) when I press
'1g' (and also at startup). Nevertheless, since I've added a new nntp
binary server (Astraweb) gnus always wastes some precious seconds
reading the active file from this server as you can see in the extract
below. Is that unavoidable? This is from *Messages* after starting gnus:

,----
| Opening nnfolder server on archive...done
| Opening nntp server on news.gmane.org...done
| Opening nntp server on news.gwene.org...done
| Opening nntp server on Astraweb US SSL...done
| Opening nnml server on david.espiga4.com.ar...done
| 165 new newsgroups have arrived
| Checking new news...
| Reading active file from Astraweb US SSL via nntp...
| Reading active file from david.espiga4.com.ar via nnml...
| Reading incoming mail from file...
`----

On a related note, and proably more important too, I can only browse
through Astraweb's groups if I enter the *Server* buffer whereas I'd
rather like to be able to have them in the Killed (or Zombie if new)
Groups list so I can see them when I press 'A k'. Is this possible? I've
tried recreating the active file with gnus-cache-generate-active, also
gnus-group-find-new-groups (with one and two C-u prefixes) but I keep
seeing only the groups from old servers (gmane, gwene, and my primary
server individual.net)

A list of pertinent variables:

gnus-activate-level 5 (changed from the default which is 6) 
gnus-group-default-list-level 5
gnus-group-use-permanent-levels nil
gnus-level-default-subscribed 3
gnus-level-default-unsubscribed 6
gnus-level-killed 9
gnus-level-subscribed 5
gnus-level-unsubscribed 7
gnus-level-zombie 8
gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method gnus-subscribe-zombies

Gnus v5.13

GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll
bars) of 2013-01-11 on david.espiga4.com.ar

-- 
Ezequiel Birman