From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 3540 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2020 13:32:13 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 10 Jul 2020 13:32:13 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:57480 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtt8N-0001Vo-1B for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:32:11 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51652) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtsvN-0000j0-2m for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:18:45 -0400 Received: from relay-1.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.6]:57224) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtsvK-0002bo-88 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 09:18:44 -0400 Received: from v-2c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.162]) by relay-1.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 889F312E8; Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:18:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-2.net-c.com [213.182.54.29] with ESMTP Fri, 10 Jul 2020 15:18:39 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: JjBuVxp3zqHux/G5DvMuAHBHw+oiPKB+3PsXXQxcoc4k+c14s+cd3crkJlHcGDlsl0DDhMyhctgESJTONSguqVJWizywfYJH From: Dmitry Alexandrov To: Rafi Khan Cc: asjo@koldfront.dk, info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: =?utf-8?B?4oCYUmVwbHnigJk=?= vs =?utf-8?B?4oCYZm9sbG93dXA=?= =?utf-8?B?4oCZ?= (was: Test email) In-Reply-To: <87blkoz0n3.fsf@rafikhan.io> (Rafi Khan's message of "Thu, 09 Jul 2020 20:14:56 -0400") References: <87eeplxo93.fsf@rafikhan.io> <87mu49du00.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <87blkoz0n3.fsf@rafikhan.io> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 16:18:31 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.6; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-1.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/10 09:18:39 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============4416220160028361469==" Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" --===============4416220160028361469== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rafi Khan wrote: > Alberto Luaces writes: > 1. I am using Gmail as the backend and received Dmitry Alexandrov's reply= in my inbox, but for some reason your reply wasn't there. He have not addressed you for some reason, cf. =E2=80=98To=E2=80=99 and (ab= sent) =E2=80=98Cc=E2=80=99 headers in his mail. While they are merely info= rmational, they are usually true. > 2. What is the difference between replying and forwarding in mailing list= s? > > Should I be doing "F" or "R". =E2=80=98r=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98R=E2=80=99=C2=B9 are above-mentioned =E2= =80=98reply to sender only=E2=80=99 commands. Indeed, docstring ( k r)= is unclear: | (gnus-summary-reply &optional YANK WIDE VERY-WIDE) | | Start composing a mail reply to the current message. | If prefix argument YANK is non-nil, the original article is yanked | automatically. | If WIDE, make a wide reply. | If VERY-WIDE, make a very wide reply. Manual entry ( K r) is fine, though: | =E2=80=98S r=E2=80=99 | =E2=80=98r=E2=80=99 | Mail a reply to the author of the current article | (=E2=80=98gnus-summary-reply=E2=80=99). In other words, these are rarely needed commands. The need to drop extra r= ecipients from reply is rare, and even in these cases it=CA=BCs often easie= r just to purge =E2=80=98Cc=E2=80=99 line. As for =E2=80=98f=E2=80=99 and =E2=80=98F=E2=80=99, they do _not_ stay for = =E2=80=98forwarding=E2=80=99, but for =E2=80=98following-up=E2=80=99. Cont= rary to what @asjo@koldfront.dk have said [0], they are _not_ for posting t= o [news]group only, but are supposed to be =E2=80=98do what I mean=E2=80=99= commands for replying: in Usenet =E2=80=94 post to group (S n), in mail = =E2=80=94 reply to all (S w). =E2=80=98DWIM=E2=80=99 breaks, though, when you are reading mail gatewayed = to Usenet or an isolated NNTP server such as Gmane. Then you have to mark newsgroups that are really mailing lists first. You = can do that on one by one basis by setting =E2=80=98to-list=E2=80=99 parame= ter on them =E2=80=94 I=CA=BCve already explained how to do that [1], but r= eally you want to mark all mail-to-news groups at once: (setq gnus-mailing-list-groups (rx bol (opt "nntp" (1+ nonl) ":") (or "gmane." "linux." "mozilla."))) Now you can use =E2=80=98f=E2=80=99 / =E2=80=98F=E2=80=99 instead of =E2=80= =98S w=E2=80=99 / =E2=80=98S W=E2=80=99 just as intended. [0] <875zaverel.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> [1] =2D =C2=B9 FWIW, I suggest you to use lower-case variants, followed by C-c C-y = if you need quotation. --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iIMEARYIACsWIQRSX35grYEsI2F1K7TIsPhUjufz5wUCXwhqpw0cZGFnQGdudWku b3JnAAoJEMiw+FSO5/PnH0YA/iVl8NhrMmhtxJqJJSB01gLTVp2/T//fLTJcK+zb 1tnwAQDYUZebGzXvZWp7qf7FZTHiFXOfZyfSy2Ed7dcXJgrNCQ== =Aovx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=-- --===============4416220160028361469== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18KaW5mby1nbnVz LWVuZ2xpc2ggbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0CmluZm8tZ251cy1lbmdsaXNoQGdudS5vcmcKaHR0cHM6Ly9s aXN0cy5nbnUub3JnL21haWxtYW4vbGlzdGluZm8vaW5mby1nbnVzLWVuZ2xpc2gK --===============4416220160028361469==--