* nnrss how to subscribe
@ 2016-09-13 5:29 Arkady Grudzinsky
2016-09-13 5:55 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Arkady Grudzinsky @ 2016-09-13 5:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Some RSS feeds appear to display HTML instead of XML. For
instance, I can't subscribe my Gnus to any of the feeds listed on
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/feedindex/
Here is the snippet of the message buffer:
Contacting host: www.thetimes.co.uk:80
nnrss: http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss: Not valid XML (error XML: (Not Well-Formed) Invalid entity reference) and w3-parse doesn't work (void-function w3-parse-buffer)
XML-RPC is not available... not checking Syndic8.
gnus-group-make-rss-group: No feeds found for http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss
Normally an RSS URL would display XML code in the browser as this
one http://rss.dw.com/rdf/rss-en-all
But when I type http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss in my
browser, I'm redirected to http://www.thetimes.co.uk.
Is there a way to bypass this redirection?
Thanks.
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* Re: nnrss how to subscribe
2016-09-13 5:29 nnrss how to subscribe Arkady Grudzinsky
@ 2016-09-13 5:55 ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-09-13 6:16 ` Arkady Grudzinsky
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2016-09-13 5:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Arkady writes:
> Normally an RSS URL would display XML code in the browser as this
> one http://rss.dw.com/rdf/rss-en-all
> But when I type http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss in my
> browser, I'm redirected to http://www.thetimes.co.uk.
>
> Is there a way to bypass this redirection?
When you ask for that URL at www.thetimes.co.uk, you get a redirect:
$ wget -S http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss
--2016-09-13 07:49:38-- http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss
Resolving www.thetimes.co.uk (www.thetimes.co.uk)... 194.221.65.8, 194.221.65.62
Connecting to www.thetimes.co.uk (www.thetimes.co.uk)|194.221.65.8|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response...
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1
X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett
ETag: "2016-07-08 19:07:14.474-342-News-2014-08-14 11:09:06.162"
Last-Modified: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 05:37:55 GMT
Location: /
Content-Type: text/html;charset=UTF-8
x-cachemod-origttl: max-age=900
x-client-ttl: 50
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 21
X-Varnish: 1173628720 1173624941
x-cachemod-currenttl: 205.177s
hashkey: /tto/news/rss:tto
objttl:
X-origcc: max-age=50
X-origd: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 05:49:30 GMT
X-ws: docache1,ttocda24b
Vary: Accept-Encoding
X-NU-AKA-ACS-Version: 1_1
X-NU-AKA-ACS-Version: 1_1
X-NU-AKA-ACS-Version: 1_1
Cache-Control: max-age=43
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 05:49:38 GMT
Connection: keep-alive
Set-Cookie: nuk_customer_location_hint=UK; path=/; domain=.thetimes.co.uk
X-NU-AKA-ACS-Version: 1_1
So their webserver doesn't want to give you a feed, but redirects you
to the frontpage.
Why they do that is not something the client can discover automatically.
Maybe the do User-Agent-sniffing, maybe they just misconfigured their
webserver...
Best regards,
Adam
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2016-09-13 5:55 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2016-09-13 6:16 ` Arkady Grudzinsky
2016-09-13 10:50 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Arkady Grudzinsky @ 2016-09-13 6:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Mon, Sep 12 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> When you ask for that URL at www.thetimes.co.uk, you get a redirect:
>
> $ wget -S http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss
Thanks. I tried this URL in inoreader and it can't subscribe to
it either.
But this URL works in Inoreader:
http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/feed
wget -S http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/feed
results in downloading the XML file
However, Gnus refuses to subscribe to it with this message:
Contacting host: kremlin.ru:80
XML-RPC is not available... not checking Syndic8.
gnus-group-make-rss-group: No feeds found for http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/feed
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* Re: nnrss how to subscribe
2016-09-13 6:16 ` Arkady Grudzinsky
@ 2016-09-13 10:50 ` Adam Sjøgren
2016-09-13 20:04 ` Arkady Grudzinsky
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2016-09-13 10:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Arkady writes:
> On Mon, Sep 12 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
>
>> When you ask for that URL at www.thetimes.co.uk, you get a redirect:
>>
>> $ wget -S http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/news/rss
>
> Thanks. I tried this URL in inoreader and it can't subscribe to
> it either.
>
> But this URL works in Inoreader:
> http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/feed
What does this have to do with www.thetimes.co.uk?
Oh, nothing, you are just proceeding to the next problem... Ok.
> wget -S http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/feed
>
> results in downloading the XML file
>
> However, Gnus refuses to subscribe to it with this message:
Does nnrss handle Atom? The feed from kremlin.ru is not an RSS-feed but
an Atom-feed, as far as I can see.
I think at some point you had to convert Atom to RSS for nnrss to read
it, but I stopped using nnrss many years ago, so this may be outdated
information. See also:
· https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusRss#toc6
Best regards,
Adam
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2016-09-13 10:50 ` Adam Sjøgren
@ 2016-09-13 20:04 ` Arkady Grudzinsky
2016-09-14 7:09 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Arkady Grudzinsky @ 2016-09-13 20:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Tue, Sep 13 2016, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> Does nnrss handle Atom? The feed from kremlin.ru is not an RSS-feed but
> an Atom-feed, as far as I can see.
>
> I think at some point you had to convert Atom to RSS for nnrss to read
> it, but I stopped using nnrss many years ago, so this may be outdated
> information. See also:
>
> · https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/GnusRss#toc6
Thanks! I'll play with it some more. At least, I understand why
it does not work now.
Using gwene.org seems to be another solution, but for some reason
I can't reach http://gwene.org in my browser although it seems to
be responding to ping and I can see gwene.org nntp groups in
Gnus. It may have the web server temporarily down. I have not
seen any announcements of gwene.org closing.
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* Re: nnrss how to subscribe
2016-09-13 20:04 ` Arkady Grudzinsky
@ 2016-09-14 7:09 ` Adam Sjøgren
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From: Adam Sjøgren @ 2016-09-14 7:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Arkady writes:
> Using gwene.org seems to be another solution, but for some reason
> I can't reach http://gwene.org in my browser although it seems to
> be responding to ping and I can see gwene.org nntp groups in
> Gnus. It may have the web server temporarily down. I have not
> seen any announcements of gwene.org closing.
The Gwene website is down as - more or less - a side effect of the
"Gmane ending/Gmane resurrection" story, I think.
Best regards,
Adam
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