From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H4,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 23156 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2020 15:52:40 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 9 Jul 2020 15:52:40 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:54254 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtYqi-0001Rw-Re for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:52:37 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51554) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtRkA-0007NJ-Cl for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 04:17:22 -0400 Received: from relay-1.mailobj.net ([213.182.54.6]:48657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jtRk8-0006VG-4I for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jul 2020 04:17:22 -0400 Received: from v-1c.localdomain (unknown [192.168.90.161]) by relay-1.mailobj.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 205521285; Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:17:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-1.net-c.com [213.182.54.15] with ESMTP Thu, 9 Jul 2020 10:17:13 +0200 (CEST) X-EA-Auth: NlyEZboyXoxtQCgd9IJOIUU1HpqYZVGoNMDFdqeEDAD5+IRQwbvu/Ezaznb++CABUfwaJlE555z4D2Grzbs4eMXpq0AhxDup From: Dmitry Alexandrov To: Rafi Khan Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: Test email In-Reply-To: <87eeplxo93.fsf@rafikhan.io> (Rafi Khan's message of "Thu, 09 Jul 2020 01:15:36 -0400") References: <87eeplxo93.fsf@rafikhan.io> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:17:10 +0300 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=213.182.54.6; envelope-from=dag@gnui.org; helo=relay-1.mailobj.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/07/09 04:17:15 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Spam_score_int: -28 X-Spam_score: -2.9 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-1, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 09 Jul 2020 11:50:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0139261619797829382==" Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" --===============0139261619797829382== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rafi Khan wrote: > I am new to gnus and mailing lists and have just setup Emacs with GNUS an= d my email account. Welcome! > This is just a test email so that I can confirm things are setup as inten= ded. You are posting via Gmane, are not you? That=CA=BCs sort of fine for that = list (and any list on (non)gnu.org), but not for every one on the Net. Pos= ting in a normal way =E2=80=94 by mailing to a list address (here: info-gnu= s-english@gnu.org) via your mailserver (smtp.googlemail.com in your case) i= s generally more reliable. > Further, is there a guide I can read to learn more about how to use maili= ng lists? Lots of such guides were accumulated over the Net for decades, but I do not= know any, that=CA=BCs worth reading. They commonly contain not very relev= ant info, that overwhelm the newcomer, often =E2=80=94 local-specific and o= utdated info, and sometimes =E2=80=94 simply bullshit. Basically, there is nothing to explain: mailing lists are supposed to be na= turally familiar for anyone who is familiar with mail, that is simply to an= yone. And despite all the joint efforts of some list-hosters, mail userage= nt designers and individuals to derail it, they are mostly indeed are. The only mistake UI designers succeeded to teach users, though, is to to co= mmand =E2=80=98Reply to sender only=E2=80=99 instead of =E2=80=98Reply to a= ll=E2=80=99, which is of course is not what you want while discussing thing= s publicly. Yet in too many MUAs the latter in too concealed. Gnus, of co= urse, is not one those, so you are safe here. > There's a lot of terminology in the gnus documentation =E2=80=B9=E2=80=A6= =E2=80=BA Some of this can be inferred from the documentation and context, = but others are not so clear to me. 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