From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/4011 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Neil Woods Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Converting to Gnus Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2004 16:06:43 -0000 Organization: Huh? Message-ID: References: <4nbri0i25g.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138670033 21440 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:13:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:13:53 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:33:06 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!uio.no!feed.news.tiscali.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1fd/+GlxmqwB8g0PNYAWjQQNuQHPGXWEifGayBRGvlkZM6BDmA X-Orig-Path: news.ops.mine.nu Mail-Copies-To: nobody X-Reg-Linux-User: #5664 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.8.0 (Linux) Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:4152 Original-Lines: 76 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 4152 Tue Jan 17 17:33:06 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:4011 Archived-At: Ted Zlatanov writes: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2004, neil@suespammers.org wrote: [snip] >> Which is better - using my current mail setup above, (ie >> fetchmail->procmail, with possible slight modifications), or >> converting to using the direct Gnus method(s)? > > Fetchmail has some advantages over Gnus for fetching mail: it's a > daemon that always runs, it's probably a little faster, and it's built > only for fetching mail. > > Gnus, on the other hand, will give you a complete solution so you > don't have to depend on external software to fetch your mail. I think > the difference is mostly convenience at this point; I do plan to add > encryption to the netrc.el code soon so you can encrypt your mail > passwords instead of putting them plainly in the fetchmail > configuration or ~/.authinfo file. But this is not available right > now. That was most helpful. Thank you. >> Can I integrate spamassassin into the latter, or would ifile (and >> ifile-gnus-el) be a better solution. > > You can mix them. Pass all mail through SA first, then if it's not > spam send it to ifile. You can do this inside Gnus with spam.el, or > outside Gnus with procmail. As with fetchmail, the procmail solution > may be slightly faster but you won't have an all-in-one setup. In > addition, if Gnus splits your mail there are small advantages to using > spam.el and the registry. Thanks. I think I will go for the all-in-one setup. I'm currently reading through the Gnus tutorial and the manual at gnus.org. It certainly seems to me to be the most configurable news/mail system I've ever seen. Perhaps even a little daunting! > For both your fetchmail and procmail setups, I recommend getting Gnus > running without them and then gradually converting if you don't know > Gnus well yet. It will be a less stressful conversion. Is there a "best" way of doing this? For example, most mail utillities/MUA's and news-agents I've used before assume ~/Mail and ~/News as their default directories. Am I right in saying that Gnus prefers to have sole access to its own directories? Therefore, if I do for example: (setq gnus-directory "~/.News/") (setq message-directory "~/.Mail/") how can I then incorporate my old, previously read mail (which is in ~/Mail) into my new Gnus setup? (I have rather a lot of old news, stored in some rather large mbox files.) >> I understand using the nnml backend is the recommended (and fastest) >> method. > > If you plan to run something else that will access the mail outside of > Gnus, especially for writing (e.g. an IMAP server), you should use > nnmaildir. It's built for concurrent access. nnml is fast, sure, but > nnmaildir is not significantly slower in my experience. I would like to plan for that eventuality. Although at present I only have POP3 mail sources, I'm planning to get an account at fastmail.fm, from which I can use IMAP. Can I mix the two backends, dependant on mail source? Thanks again for your time. Neil.