Re: More gnewb questions

[notbob <notbob@nothome.com>]

On 2009-06-01, Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> wrote:
>
> ,----[ C-h v gnus-read-active-file RET ]
>| `gnus-read-active-file' is a variable declared in Lisp.
>|   -- loaded from "gnus-start"

I tried it and gnus doesn't work at all, now.  Is it a toggle variable --
just run again?  The only gnus-start I can find is a binary file.  I'm
reading the gnus manual like crazy, but it's so vague.  Where is the
"active" file.  Manual talks about it, but doesn't identify it.  

Also, a ~/.gnus.el file has yet to be created.  I gotta do it manually?

nb





>| 
>| Value: nil
>| 
>| Documentation:
>| *Non-nil means that Gnus will read the entire active file at startup.
>| If this variable is nil, Gnus will only know about the groups in your
>| `.newsrc' file.
>| 
>| If this variable is `some', Gnus will try to only read the relevant
>| parts of the active file from the server.  Not all servers support
>| this, and it might be quite slow with other servers, but this should
>| generally be faster than both the t and nil value.
>| 
>| If you set this variable to nil or `some', you probably still want to
>| be told about new newsgroups that arrive.  To do that, set
>| `gnus-check-new-newsgroups' to `ask-server'.  This may not work
>| properly with all servers.
> `----
>
> As you can see above, I have configured mine to nil (in .gnus, like
> this:
>   ; I find new groups myself:
>   (setq gnus-read-active-file nil)
> )
>
>> ......then the groups come up and are listed.  WTF!?  slrn does it in
>> 1/2 sec.
>
> I guess Gnus works differently than slrn, then.
>
>> I've tried reading the ~/newsrc (.el, .eld?) and can find no such
>> file.
>
> I've got:
>
>   $ ls .newsrc*
>   .newsrc  .newsrc.eld
>   $ 
>
>> All I find is ~/.news-dribble, which isn't even mentioned in the emacs
>> or gnus manuals.
>
> Perhaps that is because that file is an internal one?
>
>> One reason (other than the fact I despise vi!) I want to get better at
>> emacs instead of remaining with jed is, I can copy and paste into
>> emacs with better results.  With jed, specially with code, if I copy
>> and paste into jed, the indentations (and sometimes no indentations)
>> will always further indent to a stairstep, which has to be hand edited
>> out.  This is maddening and unacceptable.  I don't have this problem
>> with emacs.  That makes it all worth the effort.
>
> Do note though, that you can use Emacs with slrn just as easily as you
> can jed.
>
>
>   Best regards,
>
>      Adam
>