* Editing from Draft
@ 2005-05-09 17:27 Phillip Lord
2005-05-10 6:44 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-05-09 17:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
If I do "D e" (`gnus-draft-edit-message') in the draft group I get
article mode with editing enabled. This seems odd to me because I am
used to writing email in message mode.
Is it possible to get back to message mode? Currently, I cut and paste
stuff out of the article buffer, because this feels nicer!
Phil
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-09 17:27 Editing from Draft Phillip Lord
@ 2005-05-10 6:44 ` Reiner Steib
2005-05-10 12:52 ` Phillip Lord
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-05-10 6:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Mon, May 09 2005, Phillip Lord wrote:
> If I do "D e" (`gnus-draft-edit-message') in the draft group I get
> article mode with editing enabled. This seems odd to me because I am
> used to writing email in message mode.
>
> Is it possible to get back to message mode?
This should be the default behavior. If you are using Gnus 5.9 as
your header indicates, `D e' should call `gnus-draft-edit-message'
whereas `e' calls `gnus-summary-edit-article'. In 5.10, `e' runs
`gnus-draft-edit-message', too:
,----[ (info "(gnus)Oort Gnus") ]
| * In draft groups, `e' is now bound to `gnus-draft-edit-message'.
| Use `B w' for `gnus-summary-edit-article' instead.
`----
What does `C-h k D e' print for you in the drafts group?
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-10 6:44 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2005-05-10 12:52 ` Phillip Lord
2005-05-10 17:16 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-05-10 12:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
Reiner> On Mon, May 09 2005, Phillip Lord wrote:
>> If I do "D e" (`gnus-draft-edit-message') in the draft group I
>> get article mode with editing enabled. This seems odd to me
>> because I am used to writing email in message mode.
>>
>> Is it possible to get back to message mode?
Reiner> This should be the default behavior. If you are using Gnus
Reiner> 5.9 as your header indicates, `D e' should call
Reiner> `gnus-draft-edit-message' whereas `e' calls
Reiner> `gnus-summary-edit-article'. In 5.10, `e' runs
Reiner> `gnus-draft-edit-message', too:
Reiner> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Oort Gnus") ] | * In draft groups, `e'
Reiner> is now bound to `gnus-draft-edit-message'. | Use `B w' for
Reiner> `gnus-summary-edit-article' instead. `----
Reiner> What does `C-h k D e' print for you in the drafts group?
Hmmm. Strangeness.
I am using 21.4.1 out of the box, which makes Gnus 5.9. For me, D e
is not bound to anything at all, although D is bound to...
D runs the command gnus-summary-mark-as-read-backward
which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `gnus-sum'.
(gnus-summary-mark-as-read-backward N)
Mark the N articles as read backwards.
The difference between N and the actual number of articles marked is
returned.
More over gnus-draft-edit-message is not autoloaded. I have to load
gnus-draft manually.
I've had a look through the code base. gnus-draft-mode-map appears
correct, and defines the keys. But I have no "drafts" menu appearing
as I should have.
A bit more picking about tells me that the reason for this is because
gnus-draft-mode is off, which is where all these commands come from.
If I run M-x gnus-draft-mode in the drafts summary buffer then all
works correctly (although obvious I still have to use D e, rather than
just e).
I presume that this is supposed to happen automatically? It's entirely
feasible that some of my extensive .emacs is causing the problem
here, so if it should work, I'll have a poke around and try to find
out why not.
Cheers
Phil
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-10 12:52 ` Phillip Lord
@ 2005-05-10 17:16 ` Reiner Steib
2005-05-11 21:59 ` johnsu01
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-05-10 17:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Tue, May 10 2005, Phillip Lord wrote:
> If I run M-x gnus-draft-mode in the drafts summary buffer then all
> works correctly
The group somehow lost it's draft property. Ah, we already have
something in the manual (probably not in 5.9, [1]) about this problem:
,----[ (info "(gnus)Drafts") ]
| If the group doesn't exist, it will be created and you'll be
| subscribed to it. The only way to make it disappear from the Group
| buffer is to unsubscribe it. The special properties of the draft group
| comes from a group property (*note Group Parameters::), and if lost the
| group behaves like any other group. This means the commands below will
| not be available. To restore the special properties of the group, the
| simplest way is to kill the group, using `C-k', and restart Gnus. The
| group is automatically created again with the correct parameters. The
| content of the group is not lost.
`----
Bye, Reiner.
[1] See http://thread.gmane.org/87d6kjflsy.fsf%40deneb.enyo.de
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-10 17:16 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2005-05-11 21:59 ` johnsu01
2005-05-12 8:09 ` Reiner Steib
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From: johnsu01 @ 2005-05-11 21:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
> On Tue, May 10 2005, Phillip Lord wrote:
>
>> If I run M-x gnus-draft-mode in the drafts summary buffer then all works
>> correctly
>
> The group somehow lost it's draft property. Ah, we already have something in
> the manual (probably not in 5.9, [1]) about this problem:
>
> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Drafts") ]
> | If the group doesn't exist, it will be created and you'll be subscribed to
> | it. The only way to make it disappear from the Group buffer is to
> | unsubscribe it. The special properties of the draft group comes from a group
> | property (*note Group Parameters::), and if lost the group behaves like any
> | other group. This means the commands below will not be available. To
> | restore the special properties of the group, the simplest way is to kill the
> | group, using `C-k', and restart Gnus. The group is automatically created
> | again with the correct parameters. The content of the group is not lost.
> `----
>
> Bye, Reiner.
Wow, that's a good tip. I've been wondering about this for some time. I have
always just been manually starting gnus-draft-mode before editing a draft.
I wonder how the property got lost, though. I don't think I have ever done
anything to edit the properties of the draft group, and I definitely did not
create it by hand.
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-11 21:59 ` johnsu01
@ 2005-05-12 8:09 ` Reiner Steib
2005-05-12 13:30 ` johnsu01
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2005-05-12 8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
On Wed, May 11 2005, johnsu01 wrote:
> I wonder how the property got lost, though. I don't think I have ever done
> anything to edit the properties of the draft group, and I definitely did not
> create it by hand.
If someone would be able to reproduce it, we could probably fix the
bug.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-12 8:09 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2005-05-12 13:30 ` johnsu01
2005-05-12 21:54 ` Peter TB Brett
2005-05-13 11:59 ` Phillip Lord
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From: johnsu01 @ 2005-05-12 13:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
> On Wed, May 11 2005, johnsu01 wrote:
>
>> I wonder how the property got lost, though. I don't think I have ever done
>> anything to edit the properties of the draft group, and I definitely did not
>> create it by hand.
>
> If someone would be able to reproduce it, we could probably fix the bug.
I'll try to do that. I know that the question comes up occasionally on freenode
#emacs and #gnus as well.
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-12 8:09 ` Reiner Steib
2005-05-12 13:30 ` johnsu01
@ 2005-05-12 21:54 ` Peter TB Brett
2005-05-13 11:59 ` Phillip Lord
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From: Peter TB Brett @ 2005-05-12 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
> On Wed, May 11 2005, johnsu01 wrote:
>
> > I wonder how the property got lost, though. I don't think I have
> > ever done anything to edit the properties of the draft group, and
> > I definitely did not create it by hand.
>
> If someone would be able to reproduce it, we could probably fix the
> bug.
I suffered from the same bug (yes, I know that's not the same as
reproducing it) on WinXP/Emacs 21.3/Gnus 5.9, and killing the drafts
buffer and restarting Gnus fixed it for me.
Not that I expect that to be very helpful information.
Regards,
Peter
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* Re: Editing from Draft
2005-05-12 8:09 ` Reiner Steib
2005-05-12 13:30 ` johnsu01
2005-05-12 21:54 ` Peter TB Brett
@ 2005-05-13 11:59 ` Phillip Lord
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From: Phillip Lord @ 2005-05-13 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib <reinersteib+from-uce@imap.cc> writes:
Reiner> On Wed, May 11 2005, johnsu01 wrote:
>> I wonder how the property got lost, though. I don't think I have
>> ever done anything to edit the properties of the draft group, and
>> I definitely did not create it by hand.
Reiner> If someone would be able to reproduce it, we could probably
Reiner> fix the bug.
Hmmm, strange. Seems to be quite a common bug. I wonder whether the
problem is that the property is getting lost, or just not getting
set.
Phil
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