From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/9718 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Developing instructive material about how to use gnus for gnubies with little or no experience. Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:42:09 +0200 Organization: T-Online Message-ID: References: <1191244747.966571.256430@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1191264246 10196 80.91.229.12 (1 Oct 2007 18:44:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 18:44:06 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 01 20:44:02 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IcQFM-00037k-5H for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 20:44:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IcQFI-0004Cq-6T for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 14:43:56 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!goblin1!goblin.stu.neva.ru!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeedt0.toon.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1191264158 02 29158 1pW11TMJj3SESZ3w 071001 18:42:38 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: V98ZniZO8eKGQ8uwFEVYJ6TEwU2FRk+qnIrDjOosvCu18vkYTbiyY8 X-Face: :6KQZ[nyoS_edmB.%gw-=)BYth^|2+Y+^cu%I$FSx!&>-'om>3H7A|M&n(V7fIo3P.; yo.b yq4$p; ZaBtkv)\}biaiBQe"mD}iib1AA@99-fZ7i*bLhNRVC&0Wkxg9)SH?oWc@{ Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 (No Gnus v0.7) Emacs/22.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:xQ1ojJ90BQeueWzIPQQXumdZp04= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:79922 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:9718 Archived-At: On Mon, Oct 01 2007, thesak wrote: > Besides the usual instructive materials, how would even more basic > simple instructive material be prepared for gnubies to use gnus with > little or no experience with the jargon, the lisp expressions, et al ? The problem is that there are no volunteers for this, AFAIK. > . > All jargon explained in the same paragraph the jargon is used. I don't think this is a good idea. It would lead to repetition of lengthy explanation at several places. Instead, we should explain the jargon at a single place, the first time it is used of in (info "(gnus)Terminology"), and refer to this node when necessary. > . > All lisp expressions explained in the same paragraph the lisp > expressions are used. It would lead to repetition of lengthy explanation at several places. There is (info "(gnus)Emacs for Heathens") and (info "(gnus)Emacs Lisp"). > . > All acronyms explained in the same paragraph the acronyms are used See my answer on "jargon". > . > All references explained in the same paragraph the references are > used. Are you kidding? > . > Brief material that works for gnubies starting to use gnus. Volunteers welcome. In fact, I'd like it very much if someone would work (again) on then Gnus setup assistant (assistant.el and *.ast in the trunk). Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/