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Subject: Re: gnous-group feature and eval-after-load
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 20:14:15 +0200
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On Wed, May 09 2007, Sebastian Tennant wrote:

> Hi Gnus folk,
>
> I have the following in my .gnus:
>
>   (eval-after-load 'gnus-group
>     (progn
>       (define-key gnus-group-mode-map "q" 'bury-buffer)
>       (define-key gnus-group-mode-map "Q" 'gnus-group-exit)
>       ...
>       ))

Since you can't use Gnus without loading gnus-group.elc, there's no
point in using eval-after-load.  I'd suggest...

(require 'gnus-group)
(define-key gnus-group-mode-map "q" 'bury-buffer)
(define-key gnus-group-mode-map "Q" 'gnus-group-exit)

> However, the above key bindings only come into effect the _second_
> time I load gnus in an emacs session...
>
> Any ideas why?

I don't know.  I'd suggest to add
  (message "in eval-after-load gnus-group")
and look into the *Messages* buffer.

Bye, Reiner.
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