Re: fancy splitting and procmail

Re: fancy splitting and procmail

[Boris DAIX]

Adrian Kubala  <kubalaa@eikon.tum.de> writes:

> Ooh, ohh, I wanna answer! I just had this explained to me, so I'll see if I
> can explain it on to you. Someone else can probably do it better, but maybe
> this will be enough for you to go on.

Thanks a lot :-)

> Boris DAIX <Boris.Daix@insa-lyon.fr> wrote:
>> (setq mail-sources '((directory :path "~/spool/")
>> 			(file :path "/var/spool/mail/bdaix")))
>
> Okay, so this means each file in ~/spool goes to a separate group without
> being split, while messages in your /var spool file go through the normal
> splitting. I.e. ~/spool/list.debian-foo.spool goes automatically to
> nnml+private:list.debian-foo.
>
>> But now, I'd like to split the whole stuff better, within gnus, I tried
>> adding.
>
> Okay, so you want to stop auto-splitting the procmail spools, and split them
> manually instead. To do that, you can try "nnmail-resplit-incoming" (though
> maybe this doesn't work in Oort?), or change "directory" to a bunch of "file"
> entries, one for each procmail spool. File entries are always split, directory
> entries aren't.
>
> Then, to manually achieve the same effect as auto-splitting, use the header
> "X-Gnus-Mail-Source" in your split:

What does this mean ? I was ok 'till there... ;-) I'll try it but if
someone knows what it means...

> (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/krid")
>                      (file :path "/home/krid/Mail/IN.list")
>                      (file :path "/home/krid/Mail/IN.spam")))
>
> (setq nnmail-split-fancy
>       '(|
> [..]
>         ("X-Gnus-Mail-Source" "IN.list"           "list.misc")
> [..]
>
> (courtesy of Dirk Bernhardt)
>
> -Adrian


Thanks a lot again !

Boris

Re: fancy splitting and procmail

[Boris DAIX]

Adrian Kubala  <kubalaa@eikon.tum.de> writes:

[...]
> Okay, so you want to stop auto-splitting the procmail spools, and split them
> manually instead. To do that, you can try "nnmail-resplit-incoming" (though
> maybe this doesn't work in Oort?), or change "directory" to a bunch of "file"
> entries, one for each procmail spool. File entries are always split, directory
> entries aren't.
>
> Then, to manually achieve the same effect as auto-splitting, use the header
> "X-Gnus-Mail-Source" in your split:
>
> (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/krid")
>                      (file :path "/home/krid/Mail/IN.list")
>                      (file :path "/home/krid/Mail/IN.spam")))
>
> (setq nnmail-split-fancy
>       '(|
> [..]
>         ("X-Gnus-Mail-Source" "IN.list"           "list.misc")
> [..]

I won't use the X-Gnus-Mail-Source header first. Anyway, it doesn't work...
Look at these lines of  my .gnus :

------------------------------------------------------
(setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnml "private")))
(setq mail-sources '((directory :path "~/spool/")
			(file :path "/var/spool/mail/bdaix")))

(setq nnmail-split-fancy 
	'(| 
	    (any "debian-\\b\\(\\w+\\)@lists.debian.org" "debian-\\1")
	    (any "ding@gnus.org" "gnus.list")
	    (any "jackit-devel@sourceforge.net" "JACK.list")
	    mail.misc
	 )
)
(setq nnmail-split-method 'nnmail-split-fancy)
(setq nnmail-resplit-incoming t)
------------------------------------------------------

I don't understand why this doesn't work... "any" means To, From, Cc ?
I don't even trust the rules anymore...

> (courtesy of Dirk Bernhardt)
>
> -Adrian

Regards,

Boris

Re: fancy splitting and procmail

[Josh Huber]

Boris DAIX <Boris.Daix@insa-lyon.fr> writes:

> (setq nnmail-split-fancy 
> 	'(| 
> 	    (any "debian-\\b\\(\\w+\\)@lists.debian.org" "debian-\\1")
> 	    (any "ding@gnus.org" "gnus.list")
> 	    (any "jackit-devel@sourceforge.net" "JACK.list")
> 	    mail.misc
> 	 )
> )
> (setq nnmail-split-method 'nnmail-split-fancy)
> (setq nnmail-resplit-incoming t)
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> I don't understand why this doesn't work... "any" means To, From, Cc ?
> I don't even trust the rules anymore...

What doesn't work?  I've had problems in the past matching some text
with fancy split rules that were caused by gnus using
re-search-backward to scan the message.

For debian lists, I suggest matching on something like the
Resent-Sender header.  For example, here is the nnmail-split-fancy
entry I use for my debian lists:

	("Resent-Sender"
	 "debian-\\(\\w+\\)\\(-request\\)?@lists\\.debian\\.org"
	 "mail.lists.debian.\\1")

Hope that helps.

-- 
Josh Huber

Re: fancy splitting and procmail

[Jack Twilley]

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>>>>> "Boris" == Boris DAIX <Boris.Daix@insa-lyon.fr> writes:

[...]

Boris> I won't use the X-Gnus-Mail-Source header first. Anyway, it
Boris> doesn't work...  Look at these lines of my .gnus :

[...]

Boris> I don't understand why this doesn't work... "any" means To,
Boris> From, Cc ?  I don't even trust the rules anymore...

Make sure you have "mail.misc", not mail.misc -- quotes are important.

[...]

Boris> Regards,

Boris> Boris

Jack.
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Re: fancy splitting and procmail

[Kai Großjohann]

Boris DAIX <Boris.Daix@insa-lyon.fr> writes:

> Ok ! But I don't want to split according to the spool source file, or
> I have to split them once more because many lists comes in the same
> spool file...

If you have three spool files, put three `file' entries in
mail-sources.

kai
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