From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/5177 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gernot Hassenpflug Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: how to remove groups entirely from .newsrc.eld file? Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:45:27 +0900 Organization: RISH Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138670962 26385 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:29:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:29:22 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:34:54 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed.gazeta.pl!newsfeed.pionier.net.pl!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: h21.110.244.10.31184.vlan.kuins.net Original-X-Trace: caraway.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp 1118205928 15252 10.244.110.21 (8 Jun 2005 04:45:28 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@news.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 04:45:28 +0000 (UTC) Mail-Copies-To: never X-Attribution: Gernot Hassenpflug X-Jost-Rating: Gernot X-URL: http://www.rish.kyoto-u.ac.jp/radar-group/members/~gernot X-Home-Page: http://www.rish.kyoto-u.ac.jp/radar-group/members/gernot/index.html X-Face: @/]4<8I6V+nDm_ddk^dXq4/vw|(yVB5=enLEe^kP8/d{\F&yMgrFJ1:8@ToxjpTte[5n[= Rtl"P=cy[+Qm]{Q$+ftU`X}pfp7hq Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAElBMVEWSOz8aFCdvW1mtXVmv lpldMjj6TOyFAAACM0lEQVR4nGWUUY7cIAyGPYpyANDy3pjwTvHMAZpwgIRd3/8q/Q1Md6Wi EZP4w/ZvEyBVFpH4Ul5EMBfG2OtGzFFKAWQpMcGofudab9IEC7NwrPjbObmPg/fDEXzN47nX U1JjA5X3zZEyl8j8rFVkjRWgVq43PLhugfWrHhKXeqbbwOYCCR+cIKOeBerodgA2iFvRto+X MynAeCFtqrHOccDu/AQgT3vq0x8A9wbJy4zEanb3NUFs8hzra+rgY+Yo+llPW2/1b+8kFFrk gPpY1SQFTAYOalIktPpqPRabrGAqCG0t915mJdwJHjY6RYq+9lEeVk+9jkpZDnSqHhpURx4A tL2kT3TzTE4vohWkA3YksesPSsN+dYD9sMruaTevCy/PA6DbDaDnlHvjg7ADOB9wRgjsRgbO ik0yIKvrIi9aRC3W6kI2QL1WXQNscECqW/NmwOwBbnqt+HXN9Ab+ergeBakWkpdFIUvRXiMU qWWSnGGjxwA2EB+iTd0/MGpeLxnjtwGrjpF3XcdqfJBiQnvuhPAZVcvSgUUaYOO8UO8JpvMb NDs7qwmCx0+Aj+HMELX0JAAzR2DPMdMYyw/gcV5anmbzoAna1tjHWbXMs2CAN04a31VD7QQ4 TpxSzHO5gUcHHqISji42b8nmRTJAS561TV3Dbe2AIcrjHBe6fs1wLwPBcodmF8U7O24OAN9F mf34To8PlRpEbalfLPIN1C4A6NX/gFJMvjVLgXPQG2IAG/oXQjHCyIHx6H4AAAAASUVORK5C YII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3 (usg-unix-v) Cancel-Lock: sha1:v6GFsKjt+UfiD1gPMAPNuLSxokI= Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:5319 Original-Lines: 31 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 5319 Tue Jan 17 17:34:54 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:5177 Archived-At: Hello, I have been using gnus to read old mail, using G D. I then copied articles en masse to nnml groups, which are created by gnus if they do not already exist. However, if I want to now kill one of these nnml groups, and I use either S k or Ctrl-K, the group still remains somewhere in my startup news files. I have some parsing error in one of these nnml groups, perhaps due to Japanese character sets, and I copied articles to other groups, and deleted this particular nnml group. It still gets read on startup though.... Do I have to edit the .newsrc.eld file by hand to get rid of it? On a related note, anything done with G D appears in the .newsrc.eld file, as expected, but not anywhere in my .gnus.el. Similarly, if I copy articles from an existing mail group into a new one, this new one is created, but does not exist in my .gnus.el. This is inconvenient for me, since I do not want my mail groups destroyed if something happens to .newsrc.eld. That file is also not so easy to understand at a glance. Is there a recommended method for keeping mail safely organized (easy to overview in the .gnus.el file, for example, not so easy if you don't know where on disk(s) your groups were located if you have to try and look for them again), and can I move stuff that is created with G D into my .gnus.el file? Thanks, and best regards, Gernot Hassenpflug -- G Hassenpflug RASC, Kyoto University