From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/4833 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: ancient articles Date: 04 Apr 2005 11:04:55 +0100 Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Message-ID: References: <8764z7h6cj.fsf@koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138670713 25064 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:25:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:34:22 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!easynet-quince!easynet.net!feed4.jnfs.ja.net!jnfs.ja.net!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Sender: phillord@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: wapping.cs.man.ac.uk 1112609095 14526 130.88.198.228 (4 Apr 2005 10:04:55 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@wapping.cs.man.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2005 10:04:55 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:4974 Original-Lines: 50 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 4974 Tue Jan 17 17:34:22 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:4833 Archived-At: >>>>> "Adam" == Adam Sjøgren writes: Adam> On 31 Mar 2005 19:13:35 +0100, Phillip wrote: >>>>>>> "Reiner" == Reiner Steib >>>>>>> writes: Reiner> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Read Articles") ] | `O' | Articles that Reiner> were marked as read in previous sessions and are now | "old" Reiner> (`gnus-ancient-mark'). `---- Adam> [...] >> Do you have any idea why they appear though? I am trying to >> determine if there is any specific semantics to being ancient. Adam> I may be misreading you, but are you merely asking what the Adam> 'O' mark means? I.e. the conditions necessary for an article Adam> to be considered ancient? Adam> If so, the answer is right there in the info-node that Reiner Adam> Steib quoted: an article is ancient if it has been marked read Adam> in a previous session (not the current session). Simple as Adam> that. Adam> Sorry if I misunderstood you and the above was obvious. Then I don't understand what is happening. I use auto-expiry on my main mail box, moving stuff to an old mail box after 30 days. If I look at my mail box now, I have a pile of messages marked as "O", then a set of messages marked as "!" (ticked, which I have marked so that they stay around). And then messages marked as "E" or "EA". If I look at the dates, those marked E (expired) are all less than 30 days old. The ones marked as "O" can be much older. They are certainly not all of my old mail messages, most of which have expired correctly. None of which seems to relate to messages read in previous sessions (presumably a session being an gnus/emacs restart). Cheers Phil