Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Juho Jussila]

Henrik Enberg <henrik+news@enberg.org> writes:

> I just noted something weird about the Gnus display of Kais name.

Same here.

> When I see it in news groups it shows up as "Kai   Großjohann" (3 spaces
> between first and last name), but in mail groups is shown correctly as
> "Kai Großjohann". Anyone else seeing this?

If I select gnu.emacs.gnus group with '9 RET' I get this:

O  [  13: Kai   Großjohann    ] Re: bbdb and searching

If '8 RET' and 'P' I get this one:

R  [  13: Kai Großjohann      ] Re: bbdb and searching


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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[those who know me have no need of my name]

<87d6vm66qq.fsf@uidaho.edu> divulged:

>I don't know if this is related, but Kai's (and a few other people)
>have lost some non-ascii characters (for Kai, the ß character) in the
>summary buffer that are fine in the article.

kai has switched to latin-9 encoding of his name, and your version of gnus
probably cannot (quite) handle that.

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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[D. Goel]

> * Henrik Enberg <henrik+news@enberg.org>  on Thu, 23 May 2002
> | When I see it in news groups it shows up as "Kai   Großjohann" (3 spaces
> | between first and last name), but in mail groups is shown correctly as
> | "Kai Großjohann". Anyone else seeing this?
> 
> Not here.  Are you using proportional font for the display?

not me.. am on a dummy term.. means: emacs -nw..

and have perhaps no non-english fonts (sp.[1]?)installed, even if that
were possible on a dummy term..

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[1] i guess i should say 'terminology?'


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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Norbert Koch]

Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:

> * Norbert Koch <nk@viteno.net>  on Fri, 24 May 2002
> | IMO, it's not Emacs related.  I use XEmacs and see two spaces, too.
>
> But I use a no-MULE XEmacs and I see one space.

Then it looks like it's MULE related. Hmm, still I wonder, why only
the space is doubled; not an extra blank after every character, eg.

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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Mark Oberfield]

Norbert Koch <nk@viteno.net> writes:

> Stainless Steel Rat <ratinox@peorth.gweep.net> writes:
> 
> > * Norbert Koch <nk@viteno.net>  on Fri, 24 May 2002
> > | IMO, it's not Emacs related.  I use XEmacs and see two spaces, too.
> >
> > But I use a no-MULE XEmacs and I see one space.
> 
> Then it looks like it's MULE related. Hmm, still I wonder, why only
> the space is doubled; not an extra blank after every character, eg.

Well I use no-MULE XEmacs and I see two spaces between 
Kai's first and last name.

Mark
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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[David Masterson]

>>>>> "remi" == remi letot <remi.letot@easynet.be> writes:
> adamp_at@at_ipipan.waw.pl (Adam P.) writes:
>> David Masterson <dmaster@synopsys.com> writes:

>>>>>>>> Rémi Letot writes:
>>>> Henrik Enberg <henrik+news@enberg.org> writes:
>>>>> Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai writes:
>>>>> Henrik Enberg <henrik+news@enberg.org> writes:

>>>>>>> When I see it in news groups it shows up as "Kai Großjohann" (3
>>>>>>> spaces between first and last name), but in mail groups is shown
>>>>>>> correctly as "Kai Großjohann". Anyone else seeing this?

>>>>> I see two spaces.  Very strange.  The From header looks like this:

>>>>> From: Kai
>>>>> ....length.encoding.of.Grossjohann.goes.here...

>>>>> But on decoding, the newline-space should be converted to space, not
>>>>> space-space.  Hm.  Looks like a Gnus bug.

>>>>> I think it's an Emacs bug.  People with XEmacs don't seem to see it.

>>>> I don't see it under Emacs.

>>>> -- 
>>>> Rémi Letot
>>> 
>>> NT Emacs 21.1 + Gnus 5.9.0
>>> 
>>> Both Kai's and your name have a square box in them for me (how do I
>>> fix?).  However, I don't see any more than one space between Kai's
>>> first and last name.
>> 
>> Same here.
>> 
>> GNU Emacs 21.1.1 (i386-msvc-windows98.2222) of 2001-10-22 on buffy"
>> Oort Gnus v0.06

> That's a charset problem : we both use ISO-8859-15 (Latin-9) for
> posting. But I don't know how you might fix it.

> -- 
> Rémi Letot

Hmmmm.

NT XEmacs 21.4.7 + Gnus 5.8.8

In this version, both your name and Kai's name has the ISO marker when
viewed in the "From" header, but everything looks fine in the body of
the message.  I still don't see more than one space, though...

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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Sergei Pokrovsky]

>>>>> "Rémi" == Rémi Letot <remi.letot@easynet.be> writes:

[...]

  Rémi> That's a charset problem : we both use ISO-8859-15 (Latin-9)
  Rémi> for posting. But I don't know how you might fix it.

In Emacs-20.7, which I still normally prefer, I have this in my
dot-emacs-20.el:

  (define-coding-system-alias 'latin-9 'latin-1)
  (define-coding-system-alias 'iso-8859-15 'latin-1)

and everything looks okay (I never need euros).  Occasionally (like
now) I try

GNU Emacs 21.2.1 (sparc-sun-solaris2.8, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars)

there I did not define the aliasing and there are some problems, among
others, there are three (not two!) spaces in the the Kai's name as
presented in the Summary buffer.  And of course, bbdb starts fussing.

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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Adam P.]

Sergei Pokrovsky <pok@none.nowhere.invalid> writes:
>>>>>> "Rémi" == Rémi Letot <remi.letot@easynet.be> writes:
>
> [...]
>
>   Rémi> That's a charset problem : we both use ISO-8859-15 (Latin-9)
>   Rémi> for posting. But I don't know how you might fix it.
>
> In Emacs-20.7, which I still normally prefer, I have this in my
> dot-emacs-20.el:
>
>   (define-coding-system-alias 'latin-9 'latin-1)
>   (define-coding-system-alias 'iso-8859-15 'latin-1)

Thanks, this solved my 'blank rectangles' problems in Rémi's and
Kai's names.

      Adam

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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Stein A Stromme]

[Kai Großjohann]

| ....  (Maybe some of my postings have Latin-1 bodies but
| Latin-9 headers?  Also try C-u g on a posting to investigate.)

The header looks like this for me (gnus 5.9.0, cvs emacs 21.3.50)

From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai
 =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=)

In the summary buffer there are two spaces between Kai and Gro, this
seems to be consistent with the unfortunate linebreak (note the
leading space on the second line, why is that there?).

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Re: Kai's name in summary buffer

[Paul Jarc]

Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> wrote:
> So a <CR>?<LF>\s+ must be either considered as a single space or
> discarded, I do not remember which is the standard.

It must be treated as \s+.  Only the line break is removed.


paul