From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/6032 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wayne Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: problem: .overview~[0-9]*~ files not being deleted Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:20:22 GMT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138671642 29886 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:40:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:40:42 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:36:12 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed.gazeta.pl!news.nask.pl!news.nask.org.pl!newsfeed.pionier.net.pl!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!news-feed-01.socal.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) XEmacs/21.4.17 (linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:fBUQlv7yMkrzEChfW0rV42RowCk= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.52.51.37 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com Original-X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1131801622 67.52.51.37 (Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:20:22 CST) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:20:22 CST Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:6174 Original-Lines: 81 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 6174 Tue Jan 17 17:36:12 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:6032 Archived-At: In Kevin Greiner writes: > wayne writes: > >> I saw some discussions about the backup overview files being created >> when errors were detected, so I went and deleted *all* the overview >> files. The backup files were immediately being created. So, this >> isn't a case of a rare corruption of the .overview that sticks around. >> Whatever it is, the problem happens very quickly. > > Now, that's interesting. There's quite a few agent users in the world > so this isn't a common issue. There must be something about the nntp > headers that your server is providing. There are messages written as > the same time as the backup is created. Something like 'Duplicate > overview line for ...' or 'Overview buffer not sorted'. Can you tell > me which message you are seeing? You might need to look in the > *Messages* buffer to find it. I don't see errors very often, but that may be because the messages go by too quickly for me to see them. Checking my *Message-Log*, I see this: Retrieving newsgroup: nntp+news-server.neb.rr.com:gnu.emacs.gnus... Opening nntp server on news-server.neb.rr.com... Opening nntp server on news-server.neb.rr.com...done Fetching headers for nntp+news-server.neb.rr.com:gnu.emacs.gnus... nntp read: 10k nntp read: 12k nntp read: 13k nntp read: 15k nntp read: 16k nntp read: 17k nntp read: 18k Finding sort keys... Sorting records... Reordering buffer... Reordering buffer... Done Created backup copy of overview in /home/wayne/News/agent/nntp/news-server.neb.rr.com/gnu/emacs/gnus/.overview~1~. Duplicate overview line for 49692 Duplicate overview line for 49694 [50 more "duplicate" errors deleted] Fetching headers for nntp+news-server.neb.rr.com:gnu.emacs.gnus...done Scoring... Scoring...done Making sparse threads... Making sparse threads...done Generating summary... Generating summary...done Now, one thing I may be doing that others aren't, is that I like to see some context with the messages so I usually add a prefix arg when I enter a group. That is, I type "99 space" on the group line. I've tried setting some variables to have this done automatically, but none really seem to work as well. For example, I have the following in my init.el file: (setq gnus-use-cross-reference t) (setq gnus-auto-select-newsgroup nil) (setq gnus-summary-check-current t) (setq gnus-fetch-old-headers 200) (add-hook 'gnus-group-mode-hook 'gnus-topic-mode) (add-hook 'message-sent-hook 'gnus-score-followup-thread) (setq gnus-use-cache 'passive) (setq gnus-build-sparse-threads 'some) (setq gnus-keep-backlog 200) (setq gnus-read-active-file nil) (setq gnus-large-newsgroup 1000) Mind you, I've been using gnus since 1996 and my init.el file has accumulated a large amount of cruft over the years. So, this is just part of the 764 lines in the init.el file and I don't remember why I have all that stuff set. About 4 years ago, I switched to using the agent stuff so that I could read email when my laptop was off the net and around the same time I went on a rampage of tweaking variables. -wayne