From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/8732 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: 2 questions about EXPIRE setting in gnus Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:27:43 -0500 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: References: <8xesux6k.fsf@yyy.zzz> <87mz37lzgn.fsf@yyy.zzz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1172158832 21056 80.91.229.12 (22 Feb 2007 15:40:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2007 15:40:32 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 22 16:40:22 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HKG3P-000302-HU for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 16:40:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HKG3P-0000qJ-7F for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Feb 2007 10:40:19 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!dreaderd!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUGBgS83KhoOivUeFmC pXj4o39qeFZD1JPmAAACOklEQVR4nE2UQY/bIBCFkVPlbpX0bA2tz7sQcl5SlnsWc7cclv// E/oGjNNxokjz8eYxA7HwR9xLKQGRC4eQezqUj7KWnDOzAOB3EjaBKDl4KPARzkvpAIqoUTwI a2op6WVoeXHOlfgsnJPM1kl0SdMIFEJ0AaIJshiRhkCsHbC/51LycKDmgiw2jVJy9B9IDPNN U5NkSMQoR+c5/zTW3qjZgwg5ylpJ2YT4wubO7FEVEs0NhvPJaqzxDaDS2gUpGUjyDkau9NxB fKsmu4Ir2XSpwAjxYwfsfeqlbJwqcAwwcLINxGRWtIhhMEB7ZLoAJudd4aE42e4RCQDjYMXK CpS6XOBtNM7EVfPAbRgihfU08Sg9jqIr9G9JJuo70cCty66gwY6kzJ9xIygyJs7mDNQcSEUV iPSE1qt5mLgUkcGj8ExTbrvii2CwG3UCQkxUXDUPE03KIqPw8Iq33IBfUcbw/Ez9eeo8VvPr qrRNj2RU1DjeaN6cG8c6RKVNnTg+GIDWfAkPBVdK2jC84fCq4n4yik+VNICNtoPlPkScrKmh bPw+FIGSYmBrOUPeNfATjajPpFXtMl0Hvyt4imfzqDvC9zZ3cAEYvlt/ADq7rvDbNKj3RuxC B7gsZRWzbSAaymNXSPxjia8id1GmV6kUyjDMf9vd3daXAiYFd4GvXNzmaT7AspRyJnoif6Nn Ob8UC94fN6KybTSbvB0e46d3Tyzm+I7v4QWW5WGswZulXFNyv/4DGFvqYRv4BxSm28ZwQ4mv AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: &OO..E]'&$Q?jm[7H$]lCS"t#FD[|jK.HfvP#![KZ`/, O)lQ(pE<2QS1i~K3+u\{Bh"(4h4G0W#R-F2zZNO6n\!8bk; tu%)f>y{C` P*^7yM`e/x"b1q[?^-9zxTp User-Agent: Gnus/5.110006 (No Gnus v0.6) Emacs/21.4 (usg-unix-v) Cancel-Lock: sha1:JLCDV9QxajhSCqSABtrLridkIMk= Original-Lines: 34 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: CONTENTS-VNDER-PRESSVRE.MIT.EDU Original-X-Trace: 1172158063 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 578 18.7.18.65 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:78916 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:8732 Archived-At: winsphinX writes: > thanks, bacause i couldnot distinguish exactly total-expire and > aoto-expire, i set both. After reading your explains, i think > total-exp can free more disk space, isn't it? No. Three options: 1. No expiry. Only articles explicitly marked with 'E' from the summary buffer are expired. Reading articles marks them 'R'ead. 2. Auto-expiry. Only articles marked expirable are expired, but reading articles marks them 'E'xpirable. 3. Total-expiry. Articles merely marked 'R'ead are expired, along with articles explicitly marked 'E'xpirable. Assuming you read every article, auto- and total-expiry will eventually expire them all at the same times. It's just a question as to whether you'd prefer to mark articles as expirable or read when you read them. I tend to use total-expiry for everything; it has predictable behavior if I'm switching it on and off for a group, and I understand better how it works with scoring. > yes, i know newsgroups posts are on the servers, but after i > retrieving/reading a post, i think it should be on my disk. days by > days, even the posts are very few bytes, they will still consume disk > space, so what i need is to free local disk space -- maybe by another > way instead of expiry. Where are the articles? If we know what's saving them and where, it might be possible to explain how and how to clean them up. --dzm