From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/7201 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Face: or X-Face: Date: Mon, 01 May 2006 10:55:47 -0400 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: References: <87r73ei9m0.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1146498016 12398 80.91.229.2 (1 May 2006 15:40:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 15:40:16 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 01 17:40:14 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FaaVR-00072V-GF for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 17:40:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1FaaVR-00054x-0y for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 May 2006 11:40:13 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!dreaderd!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUGBgS83KhoOivUeFmC pXj4o39qeFZD1JPmAAACOklEQVR4nE2UQY/bIBCFkVPlbpX0bA2tz7sQcl5SlnsWc7cclv// E/oGjNNxokjz8eYxA7HwR9xLKQGRC4eQezqUj7KWnDOzAOB3EjaBKDl4KPARzkvpAIqoUTwI a2op6WVoeXHOlfgsnJPM1kl0SdMIFEJ0AaIJshiRhkCsHbC/51LycKDmgiw2jVJy9B9IDPNN U5NkSMQoR+c5/zTW3qjZgwg5ylpJ2YT4wubO7FEVEs0NhvPJaqzxDaDS2gUpGUjyDkau9NxB fKsmu4Ir2XSpwAjxYwfsfeqlbJwqcAwwcLINxGRWtIhhMEB7ZLoAJudd4aE42e4RCQDjYMXK CpS6XOBtNM7EVfPAbRgihfU08Sg9jqIr9G9JJuo70cCty66gwY6kzJ9xIygyJs7mDNQcSEUV iPSE1qt5mLgUkcGj8ExTbrvii2CwG3UCQkxUXDUPE03KIqPw8Iq33IBfUcbw/Ez9eeo8VvPr qrRNj2RU1DjeaN6cG8c6RKVNnTg+GIDWfAkPBVdK2jC84fCq4n4yik+VNICNtoPlPkScrKmh bPw+FIGSYmBrOUPeNfATjajPpFXtMl0Hvyt4imfzqDvC9zZ3cAEYvlt/ADq7rvDbNKj3RuxC B7gsZRWzbSAaymNXSPxjia8id1GmV6kUyjDMf9vd3daXAiYFd4GvXNzmaT7AspRyJnoif6Nn Ob8UC94fN6KybTSbvB0e46d3Tyzm+I7v4QWW5WGswZulXFNyv/4DGFvqYRv4BxSm28ZwQ4mv AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: &OO..E]'&$Q?jm[7H$]lCS"t#FD[|jK.HfvP#![KZ`/, O)lQ(pE<2QS1i~K3+u\{Bh"(4h4G0W#R-F2zZNO6n\!8bk; tu%)f>y{C` P*^7yM`e/x"b1q[?^-9zxTp User-Agent: Gnus/5.110005 (No Gnus v0.5) Emacs/21.4 (usg-unix-v) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UTD4lZulDEBS6CcLgxJUfvOMWr8= Original-Lines: 23 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: CONTENTS-VNDER-PRESSVRE.MIT.EDU Original-X-Trace: 1146495347 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 569 18.7.16.67 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:77383 Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:7201 Archived-At: Hadron Quark writes: > as for the rest : I guess many would say x-face since its B&W and less > bandwidth : although, frankly, times and bandwidths have changed - it > depends if you want to appease those with very, very bandwidth. Even an > x-face uses bytes - but can be very small (relatively) too. I think in an era where most people are generating MIME mails with duplicate text/plain and text/html parts and the HTML is pretty groady, spending 2K for a picture in an otherwise compact plain-text message isn't being that wasteful. :-) As far as Face vs. X-Face goes, to my knowledge only Gnus uses Face, but its format is fairly obvious and I could imagine hacking it into my favorite other open-source mail reader [1]. X-Face is a stranger but more compact format, but there's at least one other mailer that uses it (EXMH, IIRC). --dzm [1] ...but that's mutt (sometimes starting Emacs, with spam-split.el turned on using nnml backed by AFS, is just too slow). Maybe aalib deals with PNG files...