From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/4469 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Z Maze Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Help with quoting Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:26:38 -0500 Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138670375 23353 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:19:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:19:35 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:33:49 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!news.ccs.neu.edu!news.dfci.harvard.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.cse.psu.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!senator-bedfellow.mit.edu!dreaderd!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAAFVBMVEUGBgS83KhoOivUeFmC pXj4o39qeFZD1JPmAAACOklEQVR4nE2UQY/bIBCFkVPlbpX0bA2tz7sQcl5SlnsWc7cclv// E/oGjNNxokjz8eYxA7HwR9xLKQGRC4eQezqUj7KWnDOzAOB3EjaBKDl4KPARzkvpAIqoUTwI a2op6WVoeXHOlfgsnJPM1kl0SdMIFEJ0AaIJshiRhkCsHbC/51LycKDmgiw2jVJy9B9IDPNN U5NkSMQoR+c5/zTW3qjZgwg5ylpJ2YT4wubO7FEVEs0NhvPJaqzxDaDS2gUpGUjyDkau9NxB fKsmu4Ir2XSpwAjxYwfsfeqlbJwqcAwwcLINxGRWtIhhMEB7ZLoAJudd4aE42e4RCQDjYMXK CpS6XOBtNM7EVfPAbRgihfU08Sg9jqIr9G9JJuo70cCty66gwY6kzJ9xIygyJs7mDNQcSEUV iPSE1qt5mLgUkcGj8ExTbrvii2CwG3UCQkxUXDUPE03KIqPw8Iq33IBfUcbw/Ez9eeo8VvPr qrRNj2RU1DjeaN6cG8c6RKVNnTg+GIDWfAkPBVdK2jC84fCq4n4yik+VNICNtoPlPkScrKmh bPw+FIGSYmBrOUPeNfATjajPpFXtMl0Hvyt4imfzqDvC9zZ3cAEYvlt/ADq7rvDbNKj3RuxC B7gsZRWzbSAaymNXSPxjia8id1GmV6kUyjDMf9vd3daXAiYFd4GvXNzmaT7AspRyJnoif6Nn Ob8UC94fN6KybTSbvB0e46d3Tyzm+I7v4QWW5WGswZulXFNyv/4DGFvqYRv4BxSm28ZwQ4mv AAAAAElFTkSuQmCC X-Face: &OO..E]'&$Q?jm[7H$]lCS"t#FD[|jK.HfvP#![KZ`/,O)lQ(pE<2QS1i~K3+u\{Bh"(4h4G0W#R-F2zZNO6n\!8bk;tu%)f>y{C` P*^7yM`e/x"b1q[?^-9zxTp User-Agent: Gnus/5.110003 (No Gnus v0.3) Emacs/21.3 (usg-unix-v) Cancel-Lock: sha1:XIz8am1Tgj3rKBoQM6f19Y1hc4w= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: CONTENTS-VNDER-PRESSVRE.MIT.EDU Original-X-Trace: 1108135598 senator-bedfellow.mit.edu 559 18.7.16.67 Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:4610 Original-Lines: 37 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 4610 Tue Jan 17 17:33:49 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:4469 Archived-At: Thompa writes: > A (very) long time ago I used to use Gnus/Emacs for newsreading > (+10 years) and now I've forgot all (almost) about it. I remember > using som fancy quoting mechanism called supersite or something similar > but I don't remebre how it worked. Anyone who can tell me how it works? SuperCite? There's some mention of it in the various manuals; the usual use of it seems to be to include people's initials in the quoting. > Is it in Gnus/Emacs by default nowadays? I think it ships with both Emacsen, in sc.el. For a while a couple of years ago it seemed like everyone was using it, but it's mostly faded. It didn't do the specific thing I wanted it to do (indent nested quotes *and* cite by name); it was also annoying to deal quoting people who quoted messages not using supercite, and supercite exacerbated the problem of screwing up citations (now not only do you have the wrong "Foo writes:" citation line but you've put the wrong initials in front of everything Bar wrote). Then SuperCite seems to have faded, and the world seems to be a slightly better place for it. There are still alternate citation packages, and the one I've seen the most mention of is trivial-cite. I'm not entirely clear what it gets you, though. The current trendy "I use Gnus so my mail looks special" frob is the Face: header, which is a base64-encoded 48x48 PNG image in a mail/news header. Personally, I only use it for Usenet postings and mail to the ding list, but I think most people don't actually pay attention to the headers or the extra ~1K of message length (if they did, they wouldn't use Exchange/Outlook). --dzm