From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Debian-exim@smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.185.217]) by krisdoz.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o5UEeQHG000217 for ; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 10:40:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from hekate.usta.de (asta-nat.asta.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.22.63.82]) by smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63 #1) id 1OTySe-00077e-Sn; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:40:24 +0200 Received: from donnerwolke.usta.de ([172.24.96.3]) by hekate.usta.de with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OTySe-0003Le-Rb for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:40:24 +0200 Received: from iris.usta.de ([172.24.96.5] helo=usta.de) by donnerwolke.usta.de with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OTySe-0000VF-Qi for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:40:24 +0200 Received: from schwarze by usta.de with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OTySe-0005wK-HH for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:40:24 +0200 Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 16:40:24 +0200 From: Ingo Schwarze To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv Subject: Re: Fonts? Message-ID: <20100630144024.GE24358@iris.usta.de> References: <4C2B2760.7010504@bsd.lv> <20100630131222.GA24358@iris.usta.de> <4C2B519A.6060606@bsd.lv> X-Mailinglist: mdocml-discuss Reply-To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4C2B519A.6060606@bsd.lv> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Hi Kristaps, Kristaps Dzonsons schrieb am Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 04:15:54PM +0200: > mandoc needs hard-coded glyph widths (font-metrics) or you'll get > exactly these configuration questions. Same goes with my question > about dimensions and margins. Aha. So i understand you need to settle on a specific default font. So be it... > Your test with gv is the first time somebody's given independent > feedback, so it's not fair to get angry (yet :-)). Don't worry, I won't get angry about bugs, and I won't get angry about experimentation with different design decisions either; i might only get angry should the final design decisions turn out, in the long run, to be constant sources of trouble. :) > The gv problems are with a lack of hinting in the PostScript file > and unrelated to fonts. All the better! [...] > You may not use the PostScript driver--I don't either--but when I first > announced mandoc for both OpenBSD and NetBSD the first complaints were > that it doesn't have -Tps. Obviously somebody cares or I wouldn't be > doing this. If in fact nobody does care, a lot of time (and Google's > money) are being spent for naught. Don't worry! Quite a few people do care, for example at least five OpenBSD developers, probably more. To be honest, right now, almost everybody considers ASCII rendering issues more pressing then improved PostScript support, but as long as we also get -Tascii up to OpenBSD quality standards in time for the 4.8 release, there is nothing wrong with developing -Tps in parallel. Eventually, it will be a big asset. > For the record, term_ps.c is pretty much as "complicated" as it's going > to get. I do not worry that much about a bit of additional code, in particular when it is well modularized in *ps*.c files. We need what we need. Of course, bloat should be avoided, but it does not look like anybody round here is prone to producing bloat. Yours, Ingo -- To unsubscribe send an email to discuss+unsubscribe@mdocml.bsd.lv