From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [188.72.220.29])
	by krisdoz.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o69L6qUh003760
	for <discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv>; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 17:06:55 -0400 (EDT)
Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net ([93.107.20.51])
	by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o69L6hLw034289
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK)
	for <discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv>; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 23:06:46 +0200 (CEST)
	(envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=spoerlein.net;
	s=dkim200908; t=1278709606;
	bh=KjRGtn4hkbscmU6roYPPdNaRcj/C+WFyBswgHoq9wSg=;
	h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version:
	 Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:In-Reply-To;
	b=d75FgHHPjwAWU8Kbxjn7HOxOufwx/izJmycxkmaf7OpqJtlEpiMyrfuLxzq3aHIPU
	 k1spThI4iy1Ay67VQBVnWopy845swNfZksnpNoRQ6i2zUuzJ8dKd1WlnrfBcZkIXu/
	 cdac5uQwuY+thYhaFYyn+8KTA4zRP/bqsmLe2zx4=
Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o69L5f1X002521
	(version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO)
	for <discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv>; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 22:05:41 +0100 (IST)
	(envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net)
Received: (from uqs@localhost)
	by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o69L5eEx002520
	for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Fri, 9 Jul 2010 22:05:40 +0100 (IST)
	(envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net)
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 22:05:39 +0100
From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= <uqs@spoerlein.net>
To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv
Subject: Re: Raw UTF-8?
Message-ID: <20100709210539.GA2465@roadrunner.spoerlein.net>
References: <4c33f0f0.0c87970a.3458.fffff43f@mx.google.com>
 <20100707185815.GA19725@iris.usta.de>
 <20100707191807.GA18154@britannica.bec.de>
 <20100707211212.GC19725@iris.usta.de>
 <20100707211725.GA29241@britannica.bec.de>
X-Mailinglist: mdocml-discuss
Reply-To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Disposition: inline
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
In-Reply-To: <20100707211725.GA29241@britannica.bec.de>
User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14)

On Wed, 07.07.2010 at 23:17:25 +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 11:12:12PM +0200, Ingo Schwarze wrote:
> > Hi Joerg,
> > 
> > Joerg Sonnenberger wrote on Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:18:08PM +0200:
> > 
> > > Consider my name -- I would strongly hope that output devices with
> > > proper Latin1/Latin15/UTF-8 support to use the diacrit, but fall
> > > back to the transliterated version otherwise.
> > 
> > You hope in vain.  Did you try?
> 
> Yes. lp(1) on NetBSD is such an example. It does the right thing with
> groff. Depending on the output device (-Tlatin1 vs -Tascii), it will
> either use the umlaut for \(:o or the oe transliteration.

This also works fine with FreeBSD's groff when rendering to UTF-8 aware
terminals using -Tutf8 (and of course in -Tps and -Thtml mode).

I really hope the sentiment expressed in this thread is in jest, as I
would stop considering mandoc(1) a viable alternative for FreeBSD's man
subsystem if it will never support UTF-8 output (and then render \(:o as
ö like it should).

Uli
--
 To unsubscribe send an email to discuss+unsubscribe@mdocml.bsd.lv