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From: Jason McIntyre <jmc@kerhand.co.uk>
To: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@FreeBSD.org>
Cc: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv
Subject: Re: mdoc EXIT STATUS (Was: pending open issues)
Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:38:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100728133842.GB31150@bramka.kerhand.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100728123317.GA43609@edoofus.dev.vega.ru>

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 04:33:17PM +0400, Ruslan Ermilov wrote:
> > 
> > what exactly is the purpose of having two sections? how do you separate
> > application diagnostics from their return codes?
> 
> Well, exit statuses and diagnostic messages aren't necessarily related.
> Like I said, the main reason for introducing the EXIT STATUS section
> was to follow POSIX.  DIAGNOSTICS was left untouched for documenting
> diagnostic messages.  POSIX uses STDERR for this purpose, let me quote
> the relevant text:
> 
> : The STDERR section describes the standard error output of
> : the utility. Only those messages that are purposely sent by
> : the utility are described.

[snip]

thanks, that's clarified some questions i had. i'll wait and see what
netbsd people have to say too. i think though, that we probably won;t
reinstate EXIT STATUS - it feels too silly having a section for what
essentially amounts to a single sentence.

> 
> > i'm struggling to find a page (sections 1, 6, or 8) where DIAGNOSTICS
> > makes sense. i cannot even find any posix pages with it. or are you just
> > using DIAGNOSTICS for section 4?
> 
> See http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?route for one such
> example.
> 

yes, that seems to be one of the few 1/6/8 pages with a reasonable
DIAGNOSTICS section.

jmc
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-07-28 13:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <4C4E0F7B.4030009@bsd.lv>
     [not found] ` <20100727071224.GB7946@bramka.kerhand.co.uk>
2010-07-27  8:31   ` pending open issues Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-07-27  9:00     ` Sascha Wildner
2010-07-27  9:20     ` Jason McIntyre
2010-07-27  9:32       ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-07-27  9:41         ` Jason McIntyre
2010-07-27 10:03           ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-07-27 10:18             ` Jason McIntyre
2010-07-27 11:21               ` mdoc EXIT STATUS (Was: pending open issues) Kristaps Dzonsons
     [not found]                 ` <20100727131709.GA16499@edoofus.dev.vega.ru>
2010-07-27 13:54                   ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-07-27 14:15                     ` Jason McIntyre
     [not found]                       ` <20100728123317.GA43609@edoofus.dev.vega.ru>
2010-07-28 13:38                         ` Jason McIntyre [this message]
2010-08-03 21:28                           ` Ingo Schwarze
2010-08-03 21:34                             ` Joerg Sonnenberger
2010-08-06 15:48                               ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-08-06 16:17                                 ` Ingo Schwarze
2010-08-06 16:36                                   ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-08-04  6:57                             ` Jason McIntyre

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