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Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 09:26:15 +0200
From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= <uqs@spoerlein.net>
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Subject: Re: Full mandoc locale support committed.
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On Fri, 20.05.2011 at 00:49:21 +0200, Kristaps Dzonsons wrote:
> On 19/05/2011 22:28, Ulrich Spörlein wrote:
> > On Wed, 18.05.2011 at 01:07:28 +0200, Kristaps Dzonsons wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> With this last commit, initial [full] locale support has been fitted
> >> into mandoc!  Attached is eye-candy: a manual full of random Unicode
> >> input (\[uNNNN]) first with -Tascii, then with -Tlocale.
> >>
> >>   From the manual:
> >>
> >>      Locale Output
> >>        Locale-depending output encoding is triggered with -Tlocale.
> >>        This option is not available on all systems: systems without
> >>        locale support, or those whose internal representation is not
> >>        natively UCS-4, will fall back to -Tascii.  See ASCII Output
> >>        for font style specification and available command-line
> >>        arguments.
> >
> > Cool stuff! However, and this might be due to a case of "we've always
> > been doing it that way"-thinking: I think this automagic is in the wrong
> > place.
> >
> > There might be cases, where I really want ASCII output no matter what my
> > locale is (this is covered by -Tascii right now), and there might be
> > cases where I want UTF-8 output, no matter what the current locale is.
> > Perhaps because I write the output to disk or to some other
> > postprocessor.
> >
> > What I'm arguing is that we need to have a -Tutf8 mode and that perhaps
> > *not* specifying *any* -T value turns on the automagic? This would make
> > more sense from a users standpoint, IMHO.
> 
> Ulrich,
> 
> I agree.  And we also want -Tutf8 for groff compatibility.
> 
> In short, I'll have -Tutf8 done for the next release.  It's simply a 
> matter of indicating *which* locale when using setlocale().
> 
> (By the way, does FreeBSD have the STDC_ISO_10646, whether explicitly or 
> implicitly?)

It certainly isn't defined anywhere, and it also doesn't seem to be
implemented, as a short test using \[uc3bc] didn't produce ü but a
missing-glyph symbol. :(

Uli
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