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From: Ingo Schwarze <schwarze@usta.de>
To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv
Cc: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
Subject: Re: File type detection
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2015 17:33:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150902153319.GC9362@athene.usta.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1508311938410.81774@wonkity.com>

Hi Warren,

Warren Block wrote on Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 07:43:12PM -0600:

> Just tonight, it was pointed out on IRC that 'man /bin/sh' on FreeBSD
> failed spectacularly.

In which way exactly?  On OpenBSD, i see this:

  schwarze@isnote $ man /bin/sh
  man: No entry for /bin/sh in the manual.

That seems like the correct answer to me because indeed,
there is no manual page named '/bin/sh', and the man(1)
manual says:

  man [...] name ...

  The man utility displays the manual pages entitled _name_.

> Unfortunately, 'mandoc /bin/sh' also fails, although not as
> badly.

In which way exactly?  On OpenBSD, i see this:

  schwarze@isnote $ mandoc /bin/sh
  ()                                                          ()

  ?ELF???????????????????? 6??4???Oe??????4? ? ?(?????????4???4???4??? ???
  ???????????????????????????b??b???????????????p????? ???
  [...]

That seems correct behaviour, too.  The mandoc(1) manual says:

  mandoc [...] [file ...]

  The mandoc utility formats UNIX manual pages for display.
  By default, mandoc reads mdoc(7) or man(7) text from stdin, implying
  -mandoc, and produces -T locale output.
  [...]
  Input Formats
  [...]
  A third option, -mandoc, which is also the default, determines encoding
  on-the-fly: if the first non-comment macro is `Dd' or `Dt', the mdoc(7)
  parser is used; otherwise, the man(7) parser is used.

So, the binary is interpreted as man(7) code, as it should,
and invalid characters are replaced with question marks.

> Is it feasible to use file(1) to check a file's type before
> displaying it?

No.  Mandoc is a moderately security-sensitive program because root
may run it.  Complexity should be avoided.  Besides, on most systems,
the implementation of file(1) is very low-quality, insecure, and should
never be run by root.

> Or maybe to incorporate some of those or similar tests directly
> into mandoc?

No.  Too much complexity.  What's wrong with the current behaviour?
I see no need to do anything special about blatant abuse like "mandoc
/bin/sh" that will only very rarely happen in practice.

Yours,
  Ingo
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2015-09-01  1:43 Warren Block
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