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Subject: Empty tbl line in -Thtml rendered as <tr></tr>, which is universally
 0-sized
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Hi!

Given:
-- >8 --
=2EDd
=2EDt STTY 1
=2EOs
=2E
=2ESh DESCRIPTION
=2ETS
lb lb .
a	b
c	d

e	f
=2ETE
-- >8 --

groff (nroff and -Tpdf) and mandoc -Tutf8 agree that this means the
third line is blank:
-- >8 --
STTY(1)                     General Commands Manual                    STTY=
(1)

D=08DE=08ES=08SC=08CR=08RI=08IP=08PT=08TI=08IO=08ON=08N
     a=08a   b=08b
     c=08c   d=08d

     e=08e   f=08f

Linux 5.10.0-17-amd64                                    Linux 5.10.0-17-am=
d64
-- >8 --

However, mandoc -Thtml (current HEAD, Debian 1.14.5-1 matches) generates:
-- >8 --
<table class=3D"tbl">
  <tr>
    <td><b>a</b></td>
    <td><b>b</b></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>c</b></td>
    <td><b>d</b></td>
  </tr>
  <tr>
  </tr>
  <tr>
    <td><b>e</b></td>
    <td><b>f</b></td>
  </tr>
</table>
-- >8 --

Which browsers universally (lynx, Firefox) render as 0-sized,
which yields, effectively, a three-row table.

Adding a \& yields a <tr><td></td></td> (with a <b></b> in this case),
which is better at 1+1px padding from the td,
but also isn't an empty line, and lynx renders it identically.

Having a \ \& does work, I guess, but it injects a space and is a pretty
stinky work-around.

Best,
=D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B1

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