From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from mail-qy0-f188.google.com (mail-qy0-f188.google.com [209.85.221.188]) by krisdoz.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4RCskXx024416 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 06:54:47 -0600 (MDT) Received: by qyk26 with SMTP id 26so5002238qyk.21 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 05:54:40 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailinglist: mdocml-discuss Reply-To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.224.31.18 with SMTP id w18mr5836394qac.22.1274964880054; Thu, 27 May 2010 05:54:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.224.47.144 with HTTP; Thu, 27 May 2010 05:54:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 05:54:39 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: FreeBSD + mandoc (GSoC) From: Ben Fiedler To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000feae9fd08c6e9c5048792e418 --000feae9fd08c6e9c5048792e418 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi all, I'm working on moving mandoc ports to FreeBSD base. Ulrich has informed me of related work he's already started; I just wanted to get this list notified as well. Original posting to freebsd-hackers (and several responses) here: http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2010-May/031892.htmll -Ben --000feae9fd08c6e9c5048792e418 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

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--000feae9fd08c6e9c5048792e418-- -- To unsubscribe send an email to discuss+unsubscribe@mdocml.bsd.lv From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Debian-exim@smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de [129.13.185.217]) by krisdoz.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4RD8MdJ006088 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 07:08:24 -0600 (MDT) Received: from hekate.usta.de (asta-nat.asta.uni-karlsruhe.de [172.22.63.82]) by smtp1.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de with esmtp (Exim 4.63 #1) id 1OHcov-0004mx-Eq; Thu, 27 May 2010 15:08:21 +0200 Received: from donnerwolke.usta.de ([172.24.96.3]) by hekate.usta.de with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OHcov-0000dJ-E2 for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Thu, 27 May 2010 15:08:21 +0200 Received: from iris.usta.de ([172.24.96.5] helo=usta.de) by donnerwolke.usta.de with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OHcov-00012c-DJ for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Thu, 27 May 2010 15:08:21 +0200 Received: from schwarze by usta.de with local (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1OHcov-00062c-Cb for discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv; Thu, 27 May 2010 15:08:21 +0200 Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:08:21 +0200 From: Ingo Schwarze To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv Subject: Re: FreeBSD + mandoc (GSoC) Message-ID: <20100527130821.GA8921@iris.usta.de> References: X-Mailinglist: mdocml-discuss Reply-To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Hi Ben, > I'm working on moving mandoc ports to FreeBSD base. Ulrich has informed > me of related work he's already started; I just wanted to get this list > notified as well. Once again, welcome to the crowd! :-) Ingo -- To unsubscribe send an email to discuss+unsubscribe@mdocml.bsd.lv From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [188.72.220.29]) by krisdoz.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4RDD74w016405 for ; Thu, 27 May 2010 07:13:08 -0600 (MDT) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (localhost.spoerlein.net [IPv6:::1]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o4RDD4Lv098786 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 27 May 2010 15:13:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=spoerlein.net; s=dkim200908; t=1274965985; bh=O7oKdiU2uAIdWdOxeUyWVuCyLgrdmz03RfU8tuG+C18=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:In-Reply-To; b=aNun+Q2h4VvUL0zoa6POiT+BeDCWH7RKdLdj7+w84Gs6phOvs+vWyitRDcdQmg2eT eEkh72g6Aj6MfH613R1wlRYXIlt1m7PqZAjnixBs47Zms+rm5bnnLXKk5Z0txn+VVf cYELap9c5Uoa74BVZKfqbDN9p95ZxPikt2hQ6VwA= Received: (from uqs@localhost) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id o4RDD4Ga098785; Thu, 27 May 2010 15:13:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:13:04 +0200 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: Ben Fiedler Cc: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv Subject: Re: FreeBSD + mandoc (GSoC) Message-ID: <20100527131304.GP88504@acme.spoerlein.net> References: X-Mailinglist: mdocml-discuss Reply-To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) On Thu, 27.05.2010 at 05:54:39 -0700, Ben Fiedler wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working on moving mandoc ports to FreeBSD base. Ulrich has informed me > of related work he's already started; I just wanted to get this list > notified as well. > > Original posting to freebsd-hackers (and several responses) here: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2010-May/031892.htmll > > -Ben Hi Ben, welcome to the mdocml crowd! Kristaps and gang are aware of my effort of bringing mandoc into FreeBSD base. You can checkout what has already been done by cloning my repository: https://www.spoerlein.net/cgit/cgit.cgi/freebsd.work/?h=mdocml See clone URLs at the bottom. Be aware, that I will rebase the mdocml *often*, so you probably don't want to base work on the mdocml branch itself. Codewise, there is not that much left to do for the *integration*. We should look at a man(1)/apropos/whatis replacement and figure out a way to fallback on groff for broken manpages. Then again, I wanted to wait till mdocml is more mature and has grown tbl/pic support. A groff port needs to be done, and we should seriously evaluate the plan9 troff alternative. @OpenBSD and NetBSD folks: How good is mandoc at rendering ports/pkgsrc manpages, ie., how crappy is the markup of pages "out there"? Cheers, Uli -- To unsubscribe send an email to discuss+unsubscribe@mdocml.bsd.lv From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp-2.sys.kth.se (smtp-2.sys.kth.se [130.237.32.160]) by krisdoz.my.domain (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id o4SDvZJF026876 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 07:57:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp-2.sys.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8FD14DCEF for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 15:57:29 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at kth.se Received: from smtp-2.sys.kth.se ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp-2.sys.kth.se [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 5Q225DAteQr8 for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 15:57:26 +0200 (CEST) X-KTH-Auth: kristaps [130.237.221.96] X-KTH-mail-from: kristaps@bsd.lv X-KTH-rcpt-to: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv Received: from [130.237.221.96] (ctime.pdc.kth.se [130.237.221.96]) by smtp-2.sys.kth.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0543614E27C for ; Fri, 28 May 2010 15:57:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4BFFCDF8.6020602@bsd.lv> Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 16:06:48 +0200 From: Kristaps Dzonsons User-Agent: Mozilla-Thunderbird 2.0.0.22 (X11/20090707) X-Mailinglist: mdocml-discuss Reply-To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv" Subject: Re: FreeBSD + mandoc (GSoC) References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'm working on moving mandoc ports to FreeBSD base. Ulrich has informed > me of related work he's already started; I just wanted to get this list > notified as well. > > Original posting to freebsd-hackers (and several responses) here: > http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-hackers/2010-May/031892.htmll Ben, Welcome! When the next release hits (Real Soon Now), the web-site will be updated with the new mailing lists, which I suggest you subscribe to. The responses in that thread seem like the same tired arguments, but if FreeBSD has a lot of roff stuff lying around, and speed, documentation, regularity, etc. aren't really regarded, then that's how it goes. Unless they want to play with GPLv3, which is groff's new license, they're going to have to use either plan9 or heirloom. I know heirloom hasn't updated their -mdoc package since 4.4BSD. As for the former: http://swtch.com/usr/local/plan9/tmac/ Note no "tmac.doc". That's going to be fun! Take care, Kristaps -- To unsubscribe send an email to discuss+unsubscribe@mdocml.bsd.lv