From: Kristaps Dzonsons <kristaps@bsd.lv>
To: "discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv" <discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv>
Subject: Re: OT: Vt vs. Ft/Fn (WAS: Giving up on emulating SYNOPSIS vspace.)
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 2010 14:06:23 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C0E323F.2090609@bsd.lv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100608100240.GV16352@danbala.tuwien.ac.at>
>> mdoc.samples documents `Vt' as doing funny business in SYNOPSIS, not
>> `Va' (wtf?). From what I understand, Vt's the conventional way of
>> putting variables in the SYNOPSIS. `F' macros are certainly not the
>> way.
>>
>> jmc, wiz, any suggestions and/or observations? I like Ingo's
>> notation of `Vt/Va'. I've never seen it before (mdocml's manuals
>> use `Vt' standalone as suggested in mdoc.samples), but you know
>> better.
>
> I found some examples in libelf manpages (from FreeBSD) and a few in
> random places. More .Vt usage like groff's mdoc(7) describes.
I think the following makes sense. Let `Vt' work as it does right now,
but let's adopt `Vt/Va' as being the conventional form for labelling
variables in the SYNOPSIS.
Pros: consistent with Ft/Fn et al.; much richer semantic annotation;
more intuitive (subjective, of course); backwards-compatible with
plain-old `Vt'.
How does this sound? I'm really wary about changing convention, but
this seems like an area that really needs it.
>> I think we can take this opportunity, in mdoc.7, to specify how
>> variables should get documented in the SYNOPSIS. And what about the
>> following:
>>
>> - CPP defines?
>> - structs Vt's? (the `Bd' was used in one of your examples)
>>
>> We have `Dv' for defines, but that doesn't help me with wanting to
>> print out `.Dv #define FOOBAR'.
>
> rpcgen(1) actually uses Dv in that case, but it's the only occurrence.
> For the name of the struct, using Vt is fine, but for the struct
> definition including members, there currently is no better tag than
> Bd, which at least keeps it readable. Do we want to extend mdoc?
I think extending mdoc for this is step down a maze of twisty passages.
The SYNOPSIS should be short and sweet, I think, with a `Vt' for
structs that could be fully defined later in the manual. I guess?
Still no idea about defines. I see a few uses with `Fd', which makes
more sense than `Dv'.
Kristaps
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-08 11:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-06-06 23:18 Giving up on emulating SYNOPSIS vspace Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-06-06 23:42 ` Jason McIntyre
2010-06-07 11:12 ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-06-07 23:26 ` Ingo Schwarze
2010-06-07 23:42 ` Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-06-08 0:06 ` Ingo Schwarze
2010-06-08 9:13 ` OT: Vt vs. Ft/Fn (WAS: Giving up on emulating SYNOPSIS vspace.) Kristaps Dzonsons
2010-06-08 10:02 ` Thomas Klausner
2010-06-08 12:06 ` Kristaps Dzonsons [this message]
2010-06-12 18:05 ` Vt vs. Ft/Fn Ingo Schwarze
2010-06-07 0:35 ` Giving up on emulating SYNOPSIS vspace Ingo Schwarze
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