From: Jan Stary <hans@stare.cz>
To: discuss@mandoc.bsd.lv
Subject: Re: HTML output: section headers with diacritics not in table of contents
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 21:58:23 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yj4s758exmAm6ti+@www.stare.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHi0vA-GTGOP=8pC1gFOn6=yERZycuT3Mm_iOYrN1DsYY7Rozg@mail.gmail.com>
[OT, but anyway]
On Mar 25 17:07:13, mario.blaettermann@gmail.com wrote:
> > > For example, the "SYNOPSIS" is "ÜBERSICHT" in German,
> >
> > What a terrible mistranslation...
> >
> > You know, German happens to be my native language, and in
> > general English usage, "synopsis" can indeed mean "Zusammenfassung,
> > Kurzfassung, Uebersicht", but in a manual page, "SYNOPSIS" really means
> > "short syntax display", so an exact name for the section would be
> > "Kurzdarstellung der Syntax" oder "Syntax-Kurzdarstellung" or some
> > similar wording; "Uebersicht" with no further qualification is badly
> > misleading.
> >
> Thanks you for your honest opinion. We use this translation already
> for years, and no one ever complained about it.
Exactly: nobody cares about (mis)translated manpages.
> > Such mistranslations obviously not only happen for reserved words
> > like "SYNOPSIS", but also in the main text of manual pages.
> > That's why i hate translated manual pages so much. Reading German
> > manual pages, i usually find them pretty unitelligible.
> >
> OK, if you hate German man pages anyway, why get upset...?
Without speaking for Ingo, I don't think it's specific to German
in any way. For a random example, see Debian's Czech version of ln(1):
https://salsa.debian.org/manpages-l10n-team/manpages-l10n/-/blob/master/po/cs/man1/ln.1.po
msgid "ln - make links between files"
msgstr "ln - vytváří odkazy na soubory"
"odkaz" is not a "link", and nobody ever says "odkaz", ever,
for either hardlink or symlink. These translations invariably
opt for some home-grown quasi-equivalents; I don't understand
why people bother with these at all.
Jan
PS: To be honest, there is a difference between a Czech version of a manpage,
and, say, a Hungarian translation. The Hungarian is irrelevant to me;
the Czech one, being in my mother tongue, is laughable.
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-24 17:13 Mario Blättermann
2022-03-24 17:33 ` Michael Stapelberg
2022-03-24 18:00 ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 12:27 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-25 16:07 ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 20:58 ` Jan Stary [this message]
2022-03-26 12:34 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-26 13:35 ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 16:21 ` Anthony J. Bentley
2022-03-25 21:15 ` Jan Stary
2022-03-26 10:33 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-26 17:55 ` Anthony J. Bentley
2022-03-27 11:17 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-27 11:44 ` Ingo Schwarze
2022-03-25 16:57 ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 20:36 ` Jan Stary
2022-03-25 20:59 ` Mario Blättermann
2022-03-25 21:20 ` Jan Stary
2022-03-26 9:25 ` Ingo Schwarze
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