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From: Warren Block <wblock@wonkity.com>
To: discuss@mdocml.bsd.lv
Subject: Re: Identifying doc formats
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2015 16:22:49 -0600 (MDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.BSF.2.20.1507071608080.39425@wonkity.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15279.1436290257@CATHET.us>

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Anthony J. Bentley wrote:

> Warren Block writes:
>> Can mandoc just detect and display the input format?
>>
>> file(1) says both tcpdump.1 and ls.1 in FreeBSD are "troff or
>> preprocessor input, ASCII text", although one is man and the other is
>> mdoc.
>
> Yes, in -mandoc mode it is automatically detected; see mandoc(1):
>
>     A third option, -mandoc, which is also the default, determines encoding
>     on-the-fly: if the first non-comment macro is ?Dd? or ?Dt?, the mdoc(7)
>     parser is used; otherwise, the man(7) parser is used.

Right, but that is not the goal.  What I'm saying is that file(1) does 
not tell whether a man page is mdoc or man format.  mandoc knows, but 
can it show just the detected format name rather than parsing and 
displaying the man page?

That would also be a nice addition to file(1).

>> In a related note, the mandoc man page is a bit confusing about the
>> input format option.  The synopsis says that input formats are
>>
>>    [-mformat]
>>
>> That implies--to me, at least--that it would be used as
>>
>>    -mmdoc
>>
>> or
>>
>>    -mman
>>
>> But...
>>
>>    % mandoc -mman tcpdump.1
>>    man: Bad argument
>>    % mandoc -man tcpdump.1
>>    (works)
>>
>> This seems to imply that the input formats could really be "doc", "an",
>> and "andoc", and that's obviously not right.
>
> This is exactly the case. Troff macro sets are specified to troff via the
> -m option. For example, if you look at a groff installation, the following
> files are used:
>
> /usr/local/share/groff/1.22.3/tmac/an.tmac
> /usr/local/share/groff/1.22.3/tmac/andoc.tmac
> /usr/local/share/groff/1.22.3/tmac/doc.tmac

That's... well, okay, I believe it.  But that is not how those input 
formats are shown in the mandoc man page currently.  And I agree with 
that, showing "-m(doc|an|andoc)" might be how the program does it 
internally, but does not help make them mnemonic for the user.
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Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-07 17:23 Warren Block
2015-07-07 17:30 ` Anthony J. Bentley
2015-07-07 22:22   ` Warren Block [this message]

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