From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD,FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD_FP,PDS_OTHER_BAD_TLD, T_TVD_MIME_EPI autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 12175 invoked from network); 18 Aug 2021 18:46:58 -0000 Received: from bsd.lv (HELO mandoc.bsd.lv) (66.111.2.12) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 18 Aug 2021 18:46:58 -0000 Received: from fantadrom.bsd.lv (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mandoc.bsd.lv (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id aca4e4a3 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 13:46:55 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz (139-28-40-42.artus.net.pl [139.28.40.42]) by mandoc.bsd.lv (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id 62f910ad for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 13:46:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz (unknown [192.168.1.250]) by tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4E7DF360272 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 20:46:53 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=nabijaczleweli.xyz; s=202006; t=1629312413; bh=Jkvw6tfZ0PWhnJnMOAMKOdbU2BjZPurV6qq3CE+kIy4=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:From; b=t6coed0JRcGPNyPXQSaoY4wBL6P7fy/2/h0JjeINHwPZi+b6dBJ+/SGcP8gNGcE/0 k+oCuVYBpeqZozXYfWNi0mObrlhCDtDVwsWx0IYrIsB1LdU4NC8WJWhK9dIu5OoD4j rjZsDni2wPw1jaCDbVGaZl2LzBU+w+W1KMWDFs0Rs3voLmZnVjRf0QhEDQAW2R0ejL q9eyYt5zlpzzL23uDrVwmuDrMJW63i5wTdh4vdCvvJ9aPfIOmaCC+coB6QoCXZUeJ1 IFnptL0wgwGnHj6BpWl88a+mtGzaDzs5eINJbm3fGSQqlF6RhK6XvrlSIlgiTRLBcM qNZpLLC43HY5A== Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 20:46:52 +0200 From: =?utf-8?B?0L3QsNCx?= To: tech@mandoc.bsd.lv Subject: Should .At 32v rather be [AT&T] UNIX/32V rather than Version 32 AT&T UNIX? Message-ID: <20210818184652.gp3apndkyoa2m3kc@tarta.nabijaczleweli.xyz> X-Mailinglist: mandoc-tech Reply-To: tech@mandoc.bsd.lv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bldt5idi4smjyk7u" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: NeoMutt/20210205 --bldt5idi4smjyk7u Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi! At present: -- >8 -- $ printf '.At v7\n\n.At 32v' | ./mandoc -mdoc UNTITLED LOCAL UNTIT= LED Version=C2=A07 AT&T UNIX Version=C2=A032V AT&T UNIX -- >8 -- But I believe it should read: -- >8 - $ printf '.At v7\n\n.At 32v' | ./mandoc -mdoc UNTITLED LOCAL UNTIT= LED Version=C2=A07 AT&T UNIX AT&T UNIX/32V -- >8 -- My reasoning being that 32V is a direct port of V7 to the VAX with single-digit and non-formative new utilities (tsort, ..?); bundling it in with V[1234567] is, at its best, disingenuous, and, at worst, just plainly wrong. The designations of early unices originate in their manuals; how does 32V stack up here? /usr/man/man0/title: -- >8 -- Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated Holmdel, New Jersey UNIX/32V PROGRAMMER=E2=80=99S MANUAL Version 1.0 February, 1979 -- >8 -- /usr/man/man0/title] (TM in superscript): -- >8 -- =E2=80=90=E2=80=90 UNIXTM/32V TIME=E2=80=90SHARING SYSTEM: UNIX PROGRAMMER=E2=80=99S MANUAL Version 1.0, Volume 1 February, 1979 Bell Telephone Laboratories, Incorporated Holmdel, New Jersey -- >8 -- In both cases, the manual is designated as Version 1.0 for "UNIX/32V". The fundamental .At contract is to include "AT&T UNIX", hence why I think "AT&T UNIX/32V" is best. 32V is available for autopsy at http://ftp.okass.net/pub/mirror/minnie.tuhs.org/Distributions/USDL/32V/32= v_usr.tar.gz For the record and paralleling major implementations, I've raised this as for groff as Debian #991633: https://bugs.debian.org/991633 The same reasoning is laid out there, no comments at this time. Looking forward to your thoughts! Best, =D0=BD=D0=B0=D0=B1 --bldt5idi4smjyk7u Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEEfWlHToQCjFzAxEFjvP0LAY0mWPEFAmEdVZkACgkQvP0LAY0m WPGmww//RpC5lqv6/2VnUP3TGjGQgdFOTAEmBE3NxA+X9b+Eevlc93J4eEh3UeyB RC+3YrDEcw8Ut++fXK4MEES85Vbb4qOIPs9cYQ0n5ZjaIrUXz5C31H+h+UlscbqW AH/cT+/xQsZkJf3R9kgDFvZnDWeQP8EiLYiAFYgOwRFmP4aZMiEQjlsum+ltIuUR 9wd1EnpsH8imvNQezzXmuojpy1CHLgHKT2+jnLI+jNdYBqbxCoQz+je0qqYdUvAp nyg60FJ5VYkdlOX/tpKm1miuDzkkHIDrNiqZSzY+zrtAumrnSHfEJ1BX7hEfyE7i /H7jC5XqNUQSQs9kd7/y/Eewl6a6UCK+ulkCu56i6IRHU5dcJscByujUrWOkHpxO dfJB4vhoP3CZy3Nwf3CwPYT9RtaLqILVcr3V+9yNxz0QTFb61ssejD0CUZIVqJBo vgIL2sWH4T1SEeUuZFoS6rjKXR8nSNXkdt1VaWWnqGc17sBKZ+mHFLAaR2qLQHlQ S78w4eZdmwQsFjtEuYwfYohiZ3m40q92Q55Mi0vUT85cXMyEp8X71qixv9isAGa/ A3PzKJWmcor9hPg+lLtuxA/iJQcvUwEh3i8tXzDpxtZvEKX7ysRi98GepaH45LqF Rvp7iLRbq4W4qiUaqxW2ec9e0KDtnmFmAokzgaCPH74cL63Gb1I= =qKWh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bldt5idi4smjyk7u-- -- To unsubscribe send an email to tech+unsubscribe@mandoc.bsd.lv