Re: Reply to all default is not ideal

[John Flood <jfloodcsc@gmail.com>]

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Thanks very much!

Not being a "professional", I had to google a bit in order to be sure of 
what to do.  I think I'd done something similar once or twice.  So, after 
saving your suggestion as a patch and using "git apply" in the local mblaze 
repository and then recompiling, when I reply with "mrep -nogroup", it 
works and eliminates "Cc:" completely!

So, thanks very much for that option!

However, we can still "agree to disagree", in that, although they may 
exist, I don't know of email programs with "Reply to all" as an automatic 
default and, if I was knowledgeable enough I would make a patch for a 
"-group" flag to force the group reply with "nogroup" as the default!  Or, 
otherwise, cause mrep to require one of the two flags and give an error if 
flagless!  My post to the group was prompted by a recent mistake have a 
somewhat embarrassing email go to someone's relatives when it was meant 
only for the individual.  It was not disastrous, only embarrassing!  
Hopefully, "Once bitten, twice shy"!

Whatever the case, I am grateful for:
1. Your provision of mblaze
2. Your prompt and practical response!

Sincerely,

John

On Monday, May 24, 2021 at 6:46:36 PM UTC+3 Leah Neukirchen wrote:

> John Flood <jflo...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > I have been using mblaze for a certain number of weeks after using mutt 
> > (still installed) for several years. I am still getting used to it.
> >
> > I don't know if there is a better way of raising my issue, but I would 
> just 
> > note that from my point of view, the default action of mrep, which is 
> > "reply to all" has the result that, unless one is vigilant, as we all 
> know, 
> > one may end up sending messages to many people that may contain 
> information 
> > intended for only one or a few. As a result, one may unintentionally end 
> > up offending some, causing division in a group or simply spreading 
> > information that is better kept confidential.
> >
> > So, I am just expressing the wish that there was a way for one to make a 
> > more deliberate choice to "reply to all" in order to avoid inadvertent 
> > mistakes. With vim as an editor, it is, of course, very easy to delete 
> all 
> > Cc: addresses, but occasionally we all do things in a hurry or when 
> > distracted and some people even make the mistake when there is a 
> deliberate 
> > choice as in Gmail itself.
>
> I disagree, in 99% of cases, Reply All is what you want, and as you
> say, the adresses are shown and furthermore, it's easier to delete
> messages than to look them up and add them manually.
>
> So mrep will definitely keep Reply All as default, but
> this does not mean we can't add "reply directly" command or flag.
> I think this just needs to toggle the Cc: generation.
>
> Try this:
>
> diff --git a/mcom b/mcom
> index 057a998..50b48cb 100755
> --- a/mcom
> +++ b/mcom
> @@ -110,6 +110,7 @@ defaultc=e
> hdrs=
> resume=
> noquote=
> +nogroup=
> case "$0" in
> *mcom*)
> hdr=to
> @@ -217,6 +218,9 @@ case "$0" in
> -noquote)
> noquote=1
> shift;;
> + -nogroup)
> + nogroup=1
> + shift;;
> -??*)
> hdr=${1#-}
> shift;;
> @@ -357,10 +361,12 @@ fi
> to=$(mhdr -d -h reply-to "$1")
> [ -z "$to" ] && to=$(mhdr -d -h from "$1")
> printf 'To: %s\n' "$to"
> - printf 'Cc: %s\n' \
> - "$(mhdr -d -A -h to:cc: "$1" |
> - notmine |grep -Fv -e "$to" |
> - ouniq |commajoin)"
> + if [ -z "$nogroup" ]; then
> + printf 'Cc: %s\n' \
> + "$(mhdr -d -A -h to:cc: "$1" |
> + notmine |grep -Fv -e "$to" |
> + ouniq |commajoin)"
> + fi
> printf 'Bcc: \n'
> printf '%s\n' "$hdrs" | awk '{ print }' |
> msed "/body/d" -
>
>
> hth,
> -- 
> Leah Neukirchen <le...@vuxu.org> https://leahneukirchen.org/
>

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