From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIMWL_WL_HIGH,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 19490 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2023 13:15:04 -0000 Received: from second.openwall.net (193.110.157.125) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 7 Jul 2023 13:15:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 13434 invoked by uid 550); 7 Jul 2023 13:15:00 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-ID: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com Received: (qmail 13400 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2023 13:14:59 -0000 X-Proofpoint-ORIG-GUID: f_NwdxWgNcq7sjz2oNxojRoSzm87Wnm1 X-Proofpoint-GUID: f_NwdxWgNcq7sjz2oNxojRoSzm87Wnm1 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.591,18.0.957 definitions=2023-07-07_08:2023-07-06,2023-07-07 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=interactive_user_notspam policy=interactive_user score=0 adultscore=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=997 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2305260000 definitions=main-2307070123 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=apple.com; h=content-type : mime-version : subject : from : in-reply-to : date : cc : content-transfer-encoding : message-id : references : to; s=20180706; bh=RTvmyz7LQfS2n0S9y2F6B804s+6fPko6vOh3KlnbRjo=; b=kPE8ewTWH20BCHrTk1Yr2vWG4enoA8UHNWAEjFtDbMOWlq7PR2X+10f3+sQkEt5iYdh/ UJTXTkE3HWvnk8gNpcwhkELwUIELrh/9mw9B0WOX0Q+JxEBQsmwMqk+jLrJsT58H0OZ8 nuidcwINlTQy3o+8hbLyqVCG/Ms3LzEBbK54K3S/YWcfRaoZIlg6WCMQ3hHwyFNs+uv7 6vksliv6cudyGBCNtgxZj6WRGFe0B1Rcs6V9H+mQmCDUVM3IEHBjOOjibIhQEbJEQqBu YKK4DOJWPtKsAx//7k8hPYtbkKxQaqWpXAQFKxb2gOilmOak9l/4DTKIyHPPZQSPXPpR cQ== X-Va-A: X-Va-T-CD: ee50c839d80393d0679506f9ba71f6b0 X-Va-E-CD: 56ab0e176e6e23b7c0c7f8bb71e3663a X-Va-R-CD: d86870e6d2b7150a65f5397c4f4f694c X-Va-ID: 47ac61b3-b870-4e00-a43a-a909bbe9cdaa X-Va-CD: 0 X-V-A: X-V-T-CD: ee50c839d80393d0679506f9ba71f6b0 X-V-E-CD: 56ab0e176e6e23b7c0c7f8bb71e3663a X-V-R-CD: d86870e6d2b7150a65f5397c4f4f694c X-V-ID: 14a2fc33-70d0-473d-98ca-3b249a5b5f24 X-V-CD: 0 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:6.0.591,18.0.957 definitions=2023-07-07_08:2023-07-06,2023-07-07 signatures=0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 MIME-version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3767.100.2\)) From: Alastair Houghton In-reply-to: <20230707124722.GE4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2023 14:14:30 +0100 Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Message-id: <054B1907-817E-496D-9F83-7FBE7AB0111A@apple.com> References: <309EDCC9-2402-46B5-BDBD-B96677E470DD@apple.com> <20230707124722.GE4163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> To: Rich Felker X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3767.100.2) Subject: Re: [musl] __MUSL__ macro On 7 Jul 2023, at 13:47, Rich Felker wrote: >=20 > pthread_mutex_t is not a value type. It's an object. You cannot [snip] This is a somewhat irrelevant distraction and I rather wish I hadn=E2=80=99= t mentioned that as an example of odd behaviour. I=E2=80=99m well aware = that you cannot copy or assign `pthread_mutex_t` values in general (and = I understand the reasons why). Please can we instead focus on the issue of whether or not musl should = have `__MUSL__` and `__MUSL_MINOR__`. Kind regards, Alastair.