From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/2360 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Landley Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: musl 0.9.8 released Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:52:58 -0600 Message-ID: <1354150378.2190.9@driftwood> References: <20121127024958.GA23123@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20121127184329.a20d1160.idunham@lavabit.com> <20121128033948.GO20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20121127205116.1dbf130f.idunham@lavabit.com> <20121128130507.GP20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <1354138556.2190.6@driftwood> <20121128235304.GS20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1354150403 8454 80.91.229.3 (29 Nov 2012 00:53:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2012 00:53:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-2361-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Nov 29 01:53:35 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TdsNd-0003qn-MZ for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2012 01:53:29 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 31983 invoked by uid 550); 29 Nov 2012 00:53:18 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 31972 invoked from network); 29 Nov 2012 00:53:17 -0000 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:subject:to:cc:references:in-reply-to:x-mailer:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=EPWZxhN0Lg2nmbnCdoo41J14aL/me7POjf+yCl3CtYQ=; b=nU75wVpgsOqQSMvdalbsxjuzloj8vk14MXS4B451NS5kSPAerIyZBVvrlPth+wjBxC NojxiPvFSNxCGi1hY5E4rqZUzUJSljV0DWrX/l1Q2pCfAHGtnERZXAS8g+zdsK0kNvCR 1RBEPaydWnWJSrquuTr51N/bufxcyQBhZ4zWjv8ELu3o5QPoBlEBBLW7Meb7HNC3yEmZ 7tvPVPcz07hDIg6Ztg23KYdt0App5Yw+9zHutBfDYoSlfZtFYteonAbPYLLbdmLCLRYJ Be7QdSKbOco6rnBCcXEoVGK2tvR5sY4QB0ZEGTrPZm4D8KLJqxKxGHNH+vhz8RfBuSNy aBKA== In-Reply-To: <20121128235304.GS20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (from dalias@aerifal.cx on Wed Nov 28 17:53:04 2012) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.11 Content-Disposition: inline X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkUXjKmgvA/FCsYPxakqzbXFo2UgBgZGmTJHjr/g5HzQkFrubr0fZirj9hjXCoXYsRzanys Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:2360 Archived-At: On 11/28/2012 05:53:04 PM, Rich Felker wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2012 at 03:35:56PM -0600, Rob Landley wrote: > > On 11/28/2012 07:05:07 AM, Rich Felker wrote: > > >This is fairly comparable to the mips1 issue and the need for ll/sc > > >emulation by the kernel. i386 is just fundamentally lacking in a =20 > way > > >that makes multi-tasking/multi-threading not workable with the =20 > POSIX > > >apis for it. The kernel should be emulating 'lock cmpxchg', like it > > >does ll/sc for mips1, and if it did, 386 would work fine. But > > >apparently nobody cares anyway.. > > > > Actually this just got removed literally today: > > > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/11/28/445 >=20 > *sigh* that's frustrating. Turns out I was wrong, the patch series hasn't been merged yet, it's =20 just an RFC. (I only skim linux-kernel these days, too much traffic.) =20 If you wanted to speak against it, the thread starts here: http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1211.3/02304.html Rob =