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From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: vfprintf.c:(.text+0xc6c): undefined reference to `__signbitl'
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:14:13 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1365570853.18069.61@driftwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ceb2b7b3a8dd4b4401afab0546418cff.squirrel@alpha.tmit.bme.hu> (from meres5@alpha.tmit.bme.hu on Mon Apr  8 15:41:28 2013)

On 04/08/2013 03:41:28 PM, meres5@alpha.tmit.bme.hu wrote:
> Also Linux dropped the concept of static linking in practivce.
> Goodby kiss to

No it didn't. Ulrich Drepper, the ex-glibc maintainer, had a personal  
grudge against static linking. But the community did one of this  
gcc->egcs things and abandoned glibc in droves for eglibc until Ulrich  
bogged off to The Bank of Evil (Goldman Sachs), and now less crazy  
people are in charge of glibc.

It's going to take a while for the damage to work its way through, and  
in the meantime smartphones are replacing the PC and kicking it up into  
the server space like minicomputers and mainframes before it. (This  
time the marketing people are calling this process "the cloud" and  
trying to make "big iron is still lucrative" sound exciting.)

So far the smartphone has no use for glibc (android forbids GPL code in  
userspace, and since the GPLv2/GPLv3 split means there's no "the GPL"  
anymore to the point Linux and Samba can't share code desite  
implementing two ends of the same protocol, nobody's fighting very hard  
on behalf of the fragmented rubble of copyleft).

Some of us are trying to position musl as an upgrade/replacement to  
bionic. That targets a niche with a billion deployed seats and 4x  
growth potential, as opposed to a niche with 300 million deployed seats  
(most of which are windows) that's already peaked.

So don't write of static linking just yet. :)

Rob

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-04-10  5:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-04-08 19:39 meres5
2013-04-08 20:05 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-08 20:41   ` meres5
2013-04-08 21:26     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-09 20:15       ` meres5
2013-04-09 22:38         ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-10  1:18         ` Rich Felker
2013-04-10 10:55           ` meres5
2013-04-10  8:24         ` John Spencer
2013-04-10  9:47           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-04-10 14:14             ` Isaac Dunham
2013-04-10 14:31               ` Rich Felker
2013-08-11 21:30                 ` Justin Cormack
2013-04-10  5:14     ` Rob Landley [this message]
2013-04-10  6:21       ` Rich Felker
2013-04-08 20:09 ` Rich Felker
2013-04-08 20:47   ` meres5

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