From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/3084 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Landley Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: vfprintf.c:(.text+0xc6c): undefined reference to `__signbitl' Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 00:14:13 -0500 Message-ID: <1365570853.18069.61@driftwood> References: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365574652 5261 80.91.229.3 (10 Apr 2013 06:17:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2013 06:17:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-3088-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Wed Apr 10 08:17:36 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UPoLf-0007mE-JL for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Apr 2013 08:17:35 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 11801 invoked by uid 550); 10 Apr 2013 06:17:34 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 11793 invoked from network); 10 Apr 2013 06:17:34 -0000 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to:x-mailer:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=x9QShQhosv/xLv0JhYVIF/gcWKUk70/q4SmzauqUQt4=; b=kTmC/BHn9Hw+UEHsZFAOQyc5OKTTfaJ76crHqpcXW8IelBAQfu/Hn+Yb+SecNPLh4H 6DN+7un/O24Qo/ep6R+qQrX6uqO+IaFXV5nINKI9YDPF2rs4c+k5FceNRK6S8ov4ogtt Drrj8imIe7bmTkA6lolX3v2CGiXKKORla6aSm+NpysosVKKLInnZgrWETCOAAzrEHrPm 2nM5T1UjvXoqLl028cQJ54ZMjIpugFZ3Zka2eeBSrsIr70Bquw2IEcIcpLgUKAec5Ybs Ukv5Bpud7i8xkujxpGdJ5F4FMvOqjfcx/1MX79YjIO6ehrIgCK90JnqL73IPQpr7NDlb Y40Q== X-Received: by 10.50.195.231 with SMTP id ih7mr572400igc.55.1365574642165; Tue, 09 Apr 2013 23:17:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (from meres5@alpha.tmit.bme.hu on Mon Apr 8 15:41:28 2013) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.11 Content-Disposition: inline X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmUOtlyWVlbANzlYYFr2T6hwoBCIKDkVVhw0U/hT6heav5oC76uo0xEvdyDgFk1ayYDyNHQ Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:3084 Archived-At: On 04/08/2013 03:41:28 PM, meres5@alpha.tmit.bme.hu wrote: > Also Linux dropped the concept of static linking in practivce. > Goodby kiss to No it didn't. Ulrich Drepper, the ex-glibc maintainer, had a personal =20 grudge against static linking. But the community did one of this =20 gcc->egcs things and abandoned glibc in droves for eglibc until Ulrich =20 bogged off to The Bank of Evil (Goldman Sachs), and now less crazy =20 people are in charge of glibc. It's going to take a while for the damage to work its way through, and =20 in the meantime smartphones are replacing the PC and kicking it up into =20 the server space like minicomputers and mainframes before it. (This =20 time the marketing people are calling this process "the cloud" and =20 trying to make "big iron is still lucrative" sound exciting.) So far the smartphone has no use for glibc (android forbids GPL code in =20 userspace, and since the GPLv2/GPLv3 split means there's no "the GPL" =20 anymore to the point Linux and Samba can't share code desite =20 implementing two ends of the same protocol, nobody's fighting very hard =20 on behalf of the fragmented rubble of copyleft). Some of us are trying to position musl as an upgrade/replacement to =20 bionic. That targets a niche with a billion deployed seats and 4x =20 growth potential, as opposed to a niche with 300 million deployed seats =20 (most of which are windows) that's already peaked. So don't write of static linking just yet. :) Rob=