From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/3145 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Landley Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 18:24:06 -0500 Message-ID: <1366673046.18069.148@driftwood> References: Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366673070 9145 80.91.229.3 (22 Apr 2013 23:24:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 23:24:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-3149-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Tue Apr 23 01:24:33 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUQ65-0000xA-8J for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 01:24:33 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 29918 invoked by uid 550); 22 Apr 2013 23:24:32 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 29910 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2013 23:24:32 -0000 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to:x-mailer:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=Ut00AnfkFQtoheQtuJeueinPFfQ7gjD3cWzu7npm5GM=; b=olyq/Vesd9JJfuSkiP4G/8TGZ+2it66gGnhW9NpWyLTPfmZ/DT0eQJEBO43sYT5a6F LDrzF9eVpiRByt1Rj/nS4uDeV+/BtNdxoJB+3eF5ycq/Eo+T6/7yT26xLd7hFikd7V9v qkmusCTcItwCKGbPCioxrAD0IbTbm9Kp8ZWpiacz+ZkEX5PXtpGNo2Fxyume0L33Ibie KBf7nXw4JYqvvA7KlBdbGT2IH9ChoT3WWLjkNI7OqrdLhSaZizg+EdeJcJ4dFYRQMjvV w8MhQnJjjQiSZXvgJJd+9TMOZO3GsaQzTvKePe30voenn4oh3C1BzX5nOEw0JMXgnUk1 hkRA== X-Received: by 10.50.13.208 with SMTP id j16mr17257035igc.73.1366673060465; Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:24:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: (from lmemsm@gmail.com on Mon Apr 22 11:40:37 2013) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.11 Content-Disposition: inline X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnXUSVsCBJX1DA+Szn+NRW9Xp55Jnq8sbvBQCnCk8+O9UGf47rB0HuGSSoHOuFWffwseOIr Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:3145 Archived-At: On 04/22/2013 11:40:37 AM, LM wrote: > On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:21 AM, Luca Barbato =20 > wrote: >=20 > > > - Dependency on any library with the above problems. :-) > > > > And that kills everybody using glib? *runs and hides* > > >=20 > I guess that's one of the reasons I'm trying to eliminate glib from my > system and thus, at the moment, trying to find a gettext alternative =20 > that > doesn't need it. >=20 > Was reading about the Citrus Project ( http://citrus.bsdclub.org/ ) > creating a BSD licensed gettext. Having trouble digging up latest =20 > source > code for it though. I also ran across Apache's version of iconv ( > http://apr.apache.org/download.cgi ) but didn't see anything for =20 > gettext > mentioned at the site. I use http://penma.de/code/gettext-stub/ which doesn't fix the problem, =20 but does avoid it for my use cases. An actual desktop should be =20 internationalizable, though. > As time allows, I'm reworking sdcv which uses glib so that it doesn't =20 > need > it. Then, all I need to do is find some useable replacements for =20 > SciTE and > Sylpheed and I think I will have eliminated any major needs for glib =20 > in the > Open Source applications and libraries I prefer. Many moons ago I started a thread on here (or was it on freenode?) =20 asking about lightweight alternatives to stuff and the need for a wiki =20 page tracking them. I believe that at the time, the musl wiki was insufficiently =20 combobulated, but it has since been fixed. The =20 http://busybox.net/tinyutils.html page is old is stale and never really =20 had good coverage, http://elinux.org/System_Size is sort of adjacent to =20 the topic. If we do come up with anything, can we put it on a wiki page? Rob=