From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/3172 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rob Landley Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Best place to discuss other lightweight libraries? Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 01:11:54 -0500 Message-ID: <1366783914.18069.158@driftwood> References: <20130422220430.53d0b1a5.idunham@lavabit.com> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; DelSp=Yes; Format=Flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1366783927 21977 80.91.229.3 (24 Apr 2013 06:12:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 06:12:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-3176-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Wed Apr 24 08:12:11 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UUsw7-0003TE-DR for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Wed, 24 Apr 2013 08:12:11 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 19956 invoked by uid 550); 24 Apr 2013 06:12:10 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 19948 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2013 06:12:10 -0000 X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:subject:to:cc:in-reply-to:x-mailer:message-id :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :content-transfer-encoding:x-gm-message-state; bh=uP01saF7E8N7m3KhS2wNsFjVHkBZjEAnyili+Wqv9gI=; b=Ao+6hxePWOL8P+q80GIp/mm74TWUHhn9xzXn8uqErh5Mn2SX6tR3hUWZ184hPht7rA 4gOiHt0HbmAtN0m9juX60WDxyPUAK9ZNFfVO2gsxLlmtfJIRhV/YXkZUK/IjOlARZIxA m38nv6xcF7C6vT0Zo+oKZRAYlmddHJfjYI1Vsp4CTbNoTaBk2Nqw8/kDzUUVduqFxg8U p7dQfCWqcKwEZPllJnVV1hILjlYCVp3nIxSMQwi/X+AKp2U0UpIsgM/2x1O9S0WtezDJ XardXqECOtY6z3po+lAEm82tXA91yv2vfcq6Fj7hFr4P76AJdaTsQwoQAUtO9xeCIfml yv3g== X-Received: by 10.50.120.66 with SMTP id la2mr2421354igb.9.1366783918247; Tue, 23 Apr 2013 23:11:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20130422220430.53d0b1a5.idunham@lavabit.com> (from idunham@lavabit.com on Tue Apr 23 00:04:30 2013) X-Mailer: Balsa 2.4.11 Content-Disposition: inline X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljJvnYz/OsIjwNAhReoJ+40lJ/b3hasyTVSymdgCM8jVHgvPXahc5GvILh53GpWd0A+0g5 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:3172 Archived-At: On 04/23/2013 12:04:30 AM, Isaac Dunham wrote: > I wonder if some notes should be put somewhere to point out that a > network mangler on top of wpa_supplicant is not needed (the learning > curve for configuring it is pretty steep, due to the need to find and > understand the docs, but wpa_supplicant + wpa_cli -a script + wpa_cli > in command mode can handle most situations, including dhcp). > I mention this because it seems to be "accepted wisdom" (but false) > that you need wpa_supplicant as a tool and a network manager to make > it useable. And most of the network managers I've encountered are > bloat of the highest order: > NetworkManager, wicd, wifiradar... > But this might be better put somewhere else. Split up the page when it gets big and unmanageable. Don't try to =20 categorize information that's not there yet. And example shell scripts can be nice. You if you don't use them, it =20 documents "here's what you need to do". Rob=