From: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Cc: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: cpuset/affinity interfaces and TSX lock elision in musl
Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 23:40:32 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1368938432.2611.5@driftwood> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130517172902.GC20323@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (from dalias@aerifal.cx on Fri May 17 12:29:03 2013)
On 05/17/2013 12:29:03 PM, Rich Felker wrote:
> > locks should not be the bottleneck in applications
> > unless there is too much shared state on hot paths,
> > which is probably a design bug or a special use-case
> > for which non-standard synchronization methods may
> > be better anyway
>
> One place where there is unfortunately a huge amount of shared state
> is memory management; this is inevitable. Even if we don't use lock
> elision for pthread locks, it might be worth considering using it
> _internally_ in malloc when it's available. It's hard to say without
> any measurements, but this might result in a malloc that beats
> ptmalloc, etc. without any thread-locale management.
I thought the point of futexes was that in the non-contention case you
don't enter the kernel at all?
I really don't see how lock elision is supposed to improve upon that.
If you're optimizing the contended case, something is wrong.
Rob
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-05-19 4:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-05-16 16:37 Daniel Cegiełka
2013-05-16 20:36 ` Rich Felker
2013-05-17 4:49 ` Rob Landley
2013-05-17 5:01 ` Rich Felker
2013-05-19 4:05 ` Rob Landley
2013-05-17 7:41 ` Daniel Cegiełka
2013-05-17 11:28 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2013-05-17 17:29 ` Rich Felker
2013-05-19 4:40 ` Rob Landley [this message]
2013-05-19 20:51 ` Rich Felker
2013-05-19 4:12 ` Rob Landley
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