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From: Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Explaining cond var destroy [Re: [musl] C threads, v3.0]
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 18:56:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1407344216.24324.317.camel@eris.loria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140806161552.GB1674@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

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Am Mittwoch, den 06.08.2014, 12:15 -0400 schrieb Rich Felker:
> One problem with this is that being woken by a signal isn't the only
> way a cond var wait can end. It can also end due to timeout or
> cancellation, and in that case, there's no signaling thread to be
> responsible for the bookkeeping, but if another thread calls
> pthread_cond_broadcast at this point, it can legally destroy and free
> the cond var, despite the timed-out/cancelled wait still having its
> own bookkeeping to do.
> 
> The best possible solution would be if we could eliminate the need for
> this bookkeeping entirely, but I don't see any easy way to do that.

Easy perhaps not. But the futex syscall returns some of the
information that is currently thrown away.

 - when returning with 0 from do_wait we can't distinguish if we were
   woken up with a FUTEX_WAKE (good) or with EWOULDBLOCK (bad, retry)

 - the call with FUTEX_REQUEUE drops the information if some thread
   was woken up, the same for the __wake in pthread_cond_signal.

 - pthread_cond_broadcast uses FUTEX_REQUEUE and not
   FUTEX_CMP_REQUEUE.  This could help to ensure that we don't have a
   race on _c_seq. If so, we perhaps wouldn't have to hold a lock when
   going in the syscall.

I don't know, yet, if this lost information would help in all
cases. But maybe in some and that would lead to a path for
simplification. I'll dig a bit more.

Jens

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-08-06 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-08-04  9:30 C threads, v3.0 Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04  9:33 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04 14:50 ` Rich Felker
2014-08-04 16:48   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04 17:06     ` Rich Felker
2014-08-04 22:16       ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-04 22:36         ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06  3:52 ` Explaining cond var destroy [Re: [musl] C threads, v3.0] Rich Felker
2014-08-06  8:43   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06  9:41     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 10:03       ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 10:32         ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 16:15           ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 16:56             ` Jens Gustedt [this message]
2014-08-06 17:32               ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 20:55                 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 22:04                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-06 22:43                     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06 23:15                       ` Rich Felker
2014-08-07  7:50                         ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-07 10:52                           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2014-08-07 11:03                             ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-07 16:13                           ` Rich Felker
2014-08-07 16:47                             ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-07 17:25                               ` Rich Felker
2014-08-08  9:20                                 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-08 16:53                                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-08 19:14                                   ` Rich Felker
2014-08-08 20:48                                     ` Rich Felker
2014-08-09  6:47                                       ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-12  2:50                                         ` Rich Felker
2014-08-12  7:04                                           ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-12 16:01                                             ` Rich Felker
2014-08-12 19:09                                               ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-12 21:18                                                 ` Rich Felker
2014-08-13  6:43                                                   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-13  7:19                                                     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-08-06  9:50     ` Rich Felker

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