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From: Jens Gustedt <jens.gustedt@inria.fr>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add stdatomic.h for clang>=3.1 and gcc>=4.1
Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2014 17:18:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1416759497.16006.457.camel@eris.loria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20141123150639.GI29621@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

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Am Sonntag, den 23.11.2014, 10:06 -0500 schrieb Rich Felker:
> > > I don't see
> > > where your ideas about pointers and CAS are coming in.
> 
> I'm still confused about this.

I was thinking of storing the address of the object within the lock
structure such that we can detect a collision. But perhaps that's not
such a good idea anyhow.

> > > > > > What has all of this to do with VLA? I am lost.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The operands of __typeof__ and sizeof get evaluated when they have VLA
> > > > > type. I think this is the problem.
> > > > 
> > > > ah, ok
> > > > 
> > > > No, this isn't a problem, I think. Arrays aren't allowed to be subject
> > > > of an _Atomic qualification (arrays are never qualified
> > > > themselves). For _Atomic type, the standard explicitly excludes
> > > > arrays. So arrays in general and VLA in particular should never be
> > > > passed as such into any of these generic functions, only pointers to
> > > > atomic objects can.
> > > 
> > > Is a pointer to a variably modified type considered variably modified?
> > 
> > yes
> > 
> > > If so maybe these are affected too...
> > 
> > no, the pointers that can be passed to the atomic "functions" are
> > always pointers to atomic objects, so they can't be arrays (and so
> > VLA) themselves, nor can an atomic struct containt a VLA or a pointer
> > to VLA.
> 
> _Atomic int (*pmat)[n];
> 
> Then &pmat is a pointer to a valid atomic type, an atomic pointer to a
> VLA type.

I don't see that. Ain't that a pointer to a VLA of base type _Atomic
int?

The beast that you describe would be

int (*_Atomic pmat)[n];

and effectively this would be an atomic pointer to VM type. But
concerning size, atomicity etc this is just a pointer type like any
other. (The size information doesn't change, once it is initialized.)
And concerning the atomic functions this is not different to

int (*_Atomic pmat)[];

Could you describe a bit more, where you think that there is a problem
with such a thing?

Jens

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-11-23 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-09 12:53 Joakim Sindholt
2014-11-09 17:11 ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-22 20:52   ` Joakim Sindholt
2014-11-22 23:09     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-22 23:30       ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23  1:31         ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-23  1:43           ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23  1:47             ` Joakim Sindholt
2014-11-23  2:42               ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23  9:43               ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-23 15:21                 ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23 16:29                   ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-23 16:38                     ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23 17:05                       ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-23 17:29                         ` stephen Turner
2014-11-23 19:38                         ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23  8:49             ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-23 15:06               ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23 16:18                 ` Jens Gustedt [this message]
2014-11-23 16:37                   ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23 18:01                     ` Jens Gustedt
2014-11-23 19:39                       ` Rich Felker
2014-11-23 23:30                         ` Jens Gustedt

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