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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Anti-bloat side project
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 17:43:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110627214300.GB12592@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110627213739.GA12592@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 05:37:39PM -0400, Rich Felker wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:38:05PM +0200, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > * Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> [2011-06-27 17:19:09 -0400]:
> > > Bleh. Has there been any serious work to document the causes and how
> > > the code could be changed to fix the syscall bloat though? Or just
> > > preliminat strace and wc -l?
> > 
> > most of the syscalls are due to python module imports check
> > 100 different locations before finding the good one
> > 
> > imho they measured it and concluded that with modern
> > filesystem caching this does not matter much..
> 
> Well they're wrong. Even if the syscall did nothing but enter and
> leave kernelspace, it would still be very expensive. Using a module
> cache/registry of some sort could solve the problem, or they could
> first tackle all the non-open() syscalls which still make up a heavy
> share of the cost..

Of course a better question is... why does "hello world" need to load
any modules anyway? Perhaps a best first step to fixing the problem
would be to demodularize and static link any module that will always
be loaded...

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2011-06-27 21:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-06-27 17:08 Rich Felker
2011-06-27 21:16 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2011-06-27 21:19   ` Rich Felker
2011-06-27 21:38     ` Szabolcs Nagy
2011-06-27 21:37       ` Rich Felker
2011-06-27 21:43         ` Rich Felker [this message]
2011-06-29 14:19           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2011-06-29 19:27             ` Rich Felker
2011-06-29 20:03               ` Szabolcs Nagy
2011-08-16 13:03                 ` Moritz Wilhelmy
2011-08-16 13:06                   ` Rich Felker
2011-08-16 13:16                     ` Moritz Wilhelmy
2011-08-16 13:52                       ` Rich Felker

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