mailing list of musl libc
 help / color / mirror / code / Atom feed
From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: license survey results
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 21:39:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120301023946.GQ184@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120229183121.069de4ab.idunham@lavabit.com>

On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 06:31:21PM -0800, Isaac Dunham wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Feb 2012 20:55:57 -0500
> Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx> wrote:
> <snip>
> > non-copyleft (MIT/BSD/etc.) crowd:
> > chneukirchen
> > solar
> > nathan mcsween
> > hiltjo
> > khm
> > [rob landley] (in absentia ;-)
> ...
> > LGPL w/static-linking exceptions [almost-]crowd:
> > isaac dunham
> > gs
> > 
> I was thinking "LGPL is semi-bearable, non-copyleft is better, and 
> static link exceptions are a good-enough compromise for now; I don't 
> have any code that gives me a reason to expect you to change to non-
> copyleft."
> So if you want, you can put me under non-copyleft...which is ~7 vs 1 
> for each of four options.

Thanks for clarifying.

> <snip>
> > In summary, it looks like everyone except Luka (and perhaps aep) who
> > responded would like to see at least *some* additional level of
> > permissiveness to musl's license terms, and the largest single group
> > is in favor of non-copyleft/"permissive" terms. As such I'll
> > definitely be making some licensing changes down the line. Please give
> > me some time to weigh the benefits of the different options and focus
> > on the code, especially at this time while widespread deployment is
> > still a ways off. 
> 
> For the record, I'd prefer a license like MIT/BSD to Apache 2.0 & co.
> (where there's a patent clause)--patent clauses just don't sit so well 
> with me. Not sure that it legally makes sense though!

I like patent clauses in principle, but for any kind of copyleft or
similar treatment to be useful, you need leverage. Copyleft, or
respectively the requirement to freely license patents in derivative
works, doesn't get you any code (or respectively, patents) if nobody's
making derivative works... There's also the issue of existing LGPL -
any license that puts further restrictions beyond the LGPL is
undesirable to me because in order to enforce those restrictions we'd
have to make it so new releases aren't also licensable under the LGPL.
Otherwise a party that wanted to avoid the patent clause could just
choose to use LGPL instead.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2012-03-01  2:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-28  1:55 Rich Felker
2012-02-29 16:01 ` Luka Marčetić
2012-03-01  2:31 ` Isaac Dunham
2012-03-01  2:39   ` Rich Felker [this message]
2012-03-06 16:55 ` aep

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=20120301023946.GQ184@brightrain.aerifal.cx \
    --to=dalias@aerifal.cx \
    --cc=musl@lists.openwall.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
Code repositories for project(s) associated with this public inbox

	https://git.vuxu.org/mirror/musl/

This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).