From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/974 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rich Felker Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Hello Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 12:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: <20120607161928.GE163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> References: <20120607200123.402a1672@sibserver.ru> <4FD0A902.6070108@barfooze.de> <20120607231831.66c78c33@sibserver.ru> <4FD0D6D9.5080707@barfooze.de> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339086257 24835 80.91.229.3 (7 Jun 2012 16:24:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 16:24:17 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-975-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Jun 07 18:24:16 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ScfVG-00066Z-7t for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Thu, 07 Jun 2012 18:24:06 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 17886 invoked by uid 550); 7 Jun 2012 16:24:06 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 17878 invoked from network); 7 Jun 2012 16:24:05 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FD0D6D9.5080707@barfooze.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:974 Archived-At: On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 06:29:13PM +0200, John Spencer wrote: > >At this time I think to take an older X release without some stuff I > >don't need. X11R7.6 build requires python and weird xml libs for > >example. Maybe even XFree86 (to test it in qemu for the micro desktop > >system project). > > > what kept me from configuring X11 to work properly is its huge > freaking complexity. > if an older version is simpler and can do the job as well, i'm all for it. > i fear though that you won't get any up-to-date software compiled > against it. > probably not worth the effort. As far as the server goes, even the oldest X server versions should work fine with modern software (aside from possibly being really slow when the software wants to do 3D, etc.). That's how X was designed. With that said, they're also hell in terms of wanting to do low-level hardware access themselves, not playing nice with the kernel, and not supporting any modern hardware except maybe in unaccelerated vga, vesa, or plain fbdev mode. And they're probably full of bad nonportable legacy unix code and #ifdef hell.. Rich