From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/1143 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Isaac Dunham Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Re: Vision for new platform Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 21:28:35 -0700 Message-ID: <20120613212835.10fbc426@newbook> References: <20120610235125.31f38cd7@sibserver.ru> <20120610163359.GJ163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20120611015349.701fa061@sibserver.ru> <20120611022606.303f6d07@sibserver.ru> <20120610193348.GK163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20120611175922.34fea59b@newbook> <20120612014840.GT163@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <3044.132.241.65.136.1339479458.squirrel@lavabit.com> <20120612054820.GA24099@intma.in> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1339648130 32261 80.91.229.3 (14 Jun 2012 04:28:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 04:28:50 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-1144-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Thu Jun 14 06:28:50 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sf1ft-0001HI-FB for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jun 2012 06:28:49 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 30622 invoked by uid 550); 14 Jun 2012 04:28:49 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 30614 invoked from network); 14 Jun 2012 04:28:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lavabit; d=lavabit.com; b=Mrv9bY1GCV+BZFNrggI+vjtPeKZy/dj9obH301TtdRTMpLEEMgDBxXWBmLvTFKkOnS3yOHhDbwet6I+gAIrjsU3IR28FCHlps54b3nPCnOaJl8xjQHhzghhU11qWkzZfYxL5cisZdE1nPmoFZMtWn0gU6y7LN4Z4TXJo+Fwp/og=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; In-Reply-To: <20120612054820.GA24099@intma.in> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:1143 Archived-At: On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 01:48:20 -0400 Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 10:37:38PM -0700, idunham@lavabit.com wrote: > > Tell me how you plan to handle wireless+DHCP. It can take 5+ I should note that "can" means "One of the worst cases". > > seconds to associate, and 20+ to get a lease. That's not > > negotiable, it's the facts of life. > > For the record, this isn't a problem on all hardware. My intel cards > all associate and pull IPs in less than ten seconds at most. I don't > use anything but wpa_supplicant and dhcpcd. wpa_supplicant & dhclient. Also, I'm dealing with very marginal connections (campus wireless on a university farm, and Windows takes a minute to associate then still has no internet...). So if you have a connection manager that you want tested, I'm sure I could give it a hard case... As far as ephemeral wifi goes, it's just annoying for me. I'm aware of folks who use wireless for servers, though that's asking for trouble. Isaac Dunham