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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: Hello
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2012 20:57:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120707005739.GT544@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <35058.132.241.65.68.1341616457.squirrel@lavabit.com>

On Fri, Jul 06, 2012 at 04:14:17PM -0700, idunham@lavabit.com wrote:
> >> Have you looked into building the apps/libs natively against musl
> >> except for the nvidia binary blob, to see if the blob works under that
> >> usage? I think that's a usage case that's a lot more applicable to
> >> real-world usage of musl, and in fact it's probably the first real
> >> reason anybody would be interested in having musl work with code that
> >> was built against glibc...
> The first step would probably be dropping a musl-compatible (generic, not
> gnu-linux) libstdc++ into the test environment.

Actually, generic vs gnu-linux locale crap is not the issue here. The
*ABI* support stuff in musl should make the gnu-linux code work on
musl if it was already compiled using glibc headers. It's the headers
that are incompatible with the gnu-linux os tree because we don't do
the ugly table-based stuff (which is much more bloated and probably
slower).

The issue that DOES matter with libstdc++ is name mangling. musl's
ABI-compat is limited to C. The type sizes and non-opaque type
representations match what's used on glibc/LSB, but the struct tags
and specific types for abstract opaque types like FILE and pthread_t
differ, meaning the name mangling will differ... Thus while you can in
theory use glibc-linked C++ programs with musl's LSB ABI support, you
can't mix-and-match glibc-linked C++ program/library code and
musl-linked C++ program/library code in a single program. The name
mangling will fail to match and the dynamic linker will fail to
resolve the C++ stuff.

Rich


  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-07  0:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-07 12:01 Hello orc
2012-06-07 13:13 ` Hello John Spencer
2012-06-07 15:18   ` Hello orc
2012-06-07 16:29     ` Hello John Spencer
2012-06-07 16:19       ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-06-07 17:15         ` Hello orc
2012-06-08  3:31           ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-06-08  5:49             ` Hello Isaac Dunham
2012-06-08 12:28             ` Hello aep
2012-06-08 14:14               ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-06-08 16:17                 ` Hello aep
2012-06-08 16:11                   ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-06-09  2:05                   ` Hello Isaac Dunham
2012-07-05 17:24             ` Hello orc
2012-07-05 23:34               ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-07-06  6:06                 ` Hello orc
2012-07-06  6:26                   ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-07-06  8:22                     ` Hello orc
2012-07-06 23:14                       ` Hello idunham
2012-07-07  0:57                         ` Rich Felker [this message]
2012-07-07  8:07                         ` Hello orc
2012-07-07 15:54                           ` Hello idunham
2012-07-08  9:09                             ` Hello orc
2012-06-07 17:45         ` Hello Christian Neukirchen
2012-06-07 18:03       ` Hello Jens Staal
2012-06-07 19:10         ` Hello John Spencer
2012-06-07 17:33     ` Hello Jens Staal
2012-06-07 17:59       ` Hello orc
2012-06-20  7:29     ` Hello orc
2012-06-23  1:43       ` Hello idunham
2012-06-23  1:51         ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-06-25 12:09           ` Hello orc
2012-06-25 11:59         ` Hello orc
2012-06-25 13:53           ` Hello idunham
2012-07-22 23:09 Hello idunham
2012-07-23  2:01 ` Hello Rich Felker
2012-07-23  3:49   ` Hello idunham
2012-07-23 21:01     ` Hello Rich Felker

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