From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/1295 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: orc Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Draft: musl promo materials Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:40:05 +0800 Message-ID: <20120714144005.55bd4b79@sibserver.ru> References: <20120713181254.GA31206@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <20120713191609.GC14463@port70.net> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342248102 25191 80.91.229.3 (14 Jul 2012 06:41:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 06:41:42 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-1296-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sat Jul 14 08:41:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Spw2v-0006r9-Er for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2012 08:41:41 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 18257 invoked by uid 550); 14 Jul 2012 06:41:40 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 18245 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2012 06:41:36 -0000 In-Reply-To: <20120713191609.GC14463@port70.net> X-Mailer: claws-mail Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:1295 Archived-At: On Fri, 13 Jul 2012 21:16:09 +0200 Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > * Rich Felker [2012-07-13 14:12:54 -0400]: > > Consistent quality and implementation behavior from tiny embedded > > systems to full servers. > > > > Minimal machine-specific code, meaning less chance of breakage on > > minority architectures and better success with "write once run > > everywhere" development. > > > > Realtime-quality robustness. No unnecessary dynamic allocation. No > > unrecoverable late failures. No lazy binding or lazy allocation. > > > > MIT license. > > > > Full math library with a focus on correctness. Exact and > > correctly-rounded conversion between binary floating point and > > decimal strings. > > > > Reentrancy, thread-safety, and async-signal safety well beyond the > > requirements of POSIX. Even snprintf and dprintf are fully reentrant > > and async-signal-safe. > > > > Highly resource-efficient POSIX threads implementation, making > > multi-threaded application design viable even for memory-constrained > > systems. > > i'd somehow add that both static and dynamic linking is supported > properly and without bloat as musl is better at it than glibc > > i like musl's clean code, clean header files (no gcc specific mess) > and simple build system (even for cross compilation) > again something that glibc is lacking Agree with that. musl allowed me implement a variant of skein crypt() for example, and much more things than mess called glibc. It's source code is easy to understand and good start point to learn how libc works. > > and there could be a hint that things like security, worst cases > (stack usage, algorithm complexity) and conformance are taken > seriously