From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.lib.musl.general/1302 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Isaac Dunham Newsgroups: gmane.linux.lib.musl.general Subject: Re: Draft: musl promo materials Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 17:49:19 -0700 Message-ID: <20120714174919.435d94ab@newbook> References: <20120713181254.GA31206@brightrain.aerifal.cx> <5001E884.3020604@comcast.net> <20120714160641.25a2e7be@newbook> <5002011E.6070503@purdue.edu> Reply-To: musl@lists.openwall.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342313377 23354 80.91.229.3 (15 Jul 2012 00:49:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 00:49:37 +0000 (UTC) To: musl@lists.openwall.com Original-X-From: musl-return-1303-gllmg-musl=m.gmane.org@lists.openwall.com Sun Jul 15 02:49:37 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org Original-Received: from mother.openwall.net ([195.42.179.200]) by plane.gmane.org with smtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SqD1k-0000qj-FH for gllmg-musl@plane.gmane.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 02:49:36 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 32042 invoked by uid 550); 15 Jul 2012 00:49:35 -0000 Mailing-List: contact musl-help@lists.openwall.com; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: Original-Received: (qmail 32033 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2012 00:49:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lavabit; d=lavabit.com; b=uEerIxvvuVSzv1Ur2bIoLjMDUqrgMKYG27Z4WiMBqUi/wsMdGdkpr/Mt5Y5o0Uj5dk3S3D26UpfLsEvBM94gqcjXbSE3Ggqj7cv24AgdMcxT7KQaRwcA7Ph+RaJtzrhLMsURkZl4Zrw2Mg2BsEWgkNVkys1KURG205d7kZzon/Y=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References:X-Mailer:Mime-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; In-Reply-To: <5002011E.6070503@purdue.edu> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.4 (GTK+ 2.20.1; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.linux.lib.musl.general:1302 Archived-At: On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 19:30:38 -0400 Gregor Richards wrote: > On 07/14/2012 07:06 PM, Isaac Dunham wrote: > > On Sat, 14 Jul 2012 14:45:40 -0700 > > Charlie Kester wrote: > > > > > >> It would be good to include a list of apps that have been > >> successfully compiled with musl. No need to list every such app, > >> just some representative ones that will help dispel any fears about > >> the library's ability to replace glibc in the most common uses. > > Somehow, listing compatible applications in PR does not > > sound very encouraging, until you can run the really huge > > suites/applications (I'm thinking of glibc-linked NVIDIA + Xorg, as > > was recently done with a patched version of musl, Google Earth, or > > native-built OpenOffice, Firefox/Chromium, the GIMP, Wine, Java, > > Mesa, GNOME, KDE, maybe Xfce, R, GRASS, BRL-CAD, FreeCAD, TeX, > > GDAL...the list isn't exclusive or a recommendation of the > > ... > > Isaac Dunham > > > GIMP and XFCE work. I'm working on Firefox, but I believe it > currently hits a bug in musl's dlopen, so I'm waiting on that fix. It > compiles, it just doesn't launch (hyuk). I routinely run the complete > pkgsrc suite through musl to see what works; the current test is > ongoing, but here's the results of the most recent one, which > unfortunately suffered from some bugs in my setup and so has some > false build failures: > > Tried 10444, depfail 4489, depok 5955, nobuild 2454, testfail 336, > success 3165 (53.1486%). Breakdown: http://sprunge.us/jgDO . MVD: > http://sprunge.us/cjRK > > (Tried = packages attempted, depfail = deps failed to build, nobuild > = didn't build, testfail = built but tests failed, success = all > tests passed, percentage is out of depok, MVD = most valuable > dependencies, of which I have since fixed security/p5-Crypt-Rijndael > and textproc/xmlrpc-c ) php, sdl - see latest sabotage pkg for patches perl, mpg123, mutt... - broken setup or wrong config? I've built both w/out patching, but some are picky about the config. heimdal-seriously, someone still wants Kerberos 4 ?! (heimdal is a Kerberos4-only implementation; this means only DES-based encryption, and MIT Kerberos has deprecated Kerberos 4) ap-auth-kerb - Presume this is MIT Kerberos; 1.8.x can be built with one small patch, but 1.10.x fails thanks to Redhat's broken code in libverto... heirloom-* - I had to patch it (mainly makefile changes, one or two source changes) last time I tried, but that's several months ago. cups - I think this wants libusb, which I haven't seen built... I'm wondering about how complete C++ support is, or whether __{BEGIN,END}_DECLS is overused--Fox, Qt, FLTK, and xpdf are all C++. Overall, I'd expect you've got at least a couple hundred false failures, but I notice that Mesa and parts of TeX are building, which is pretty impressive itself. Status of packages mentioned: Builds: Mesa, GIMP, Xfce, TeX (partial) testfail: firefox buildfail/testfail: GNOME, TeX (partial) depfail: OpenOffice, R, Wine, Java, KDE, GRASS? Isaac Dunham