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From: Rich Felker <dalias@aerifal.cx>
To: musl@lists.openwall.com
Subject: Re: crypt* files in crypt directory
Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 17:17:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120809211736.GT27715@brightrain.aerifal.cx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120809155254.GA28303@openwall.com>

On Thu, Aug 09, 2012 at 07:52:55PM +0400, Solar Designer wrote:
> > I don't see any down-size to limiting the iteration count if the limit
> > is reasonable. For instance if the limit were such that higher counts
> > would take more than 1 second on a theoretical 50 GHz variant of a
> > modern cpu (which is faster than a single core will EVER be able to
> > get), there's no way they would be practical to use, and there's no
> > sense in supporting them except to satisfy a fetish for "no arbitrary
> > limits" even when it conflicts with security and robustness. This
> > would at least ensure the function can't get stuck running for
> > hours/days/weeks at a time.
> > 
> > The hard part is putting the limit at some point a good bit lower.
> 
> This makes some sense.

After some casual tests, I would say somewhere around 16 is
appropriate as the absolute upper cut-off, and 12-14 is probably the
"point a good bit lower" we're aiming for. Anyone else have opinions
on this? Information on what's in common use in the wild? (I would
guess 4-8 is typical in the wild..)

Rich


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-08-09 21:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-21 15:23 Łukasz Sowa
2012-07-21 17:11 ` Solar Designer
2012-07-21 20:17   ` Rich Felker
2012-07-22 16:23   ` Łukasz Sowa
2012-07-25  7:57 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-08  2:24 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-08  4:42   ` Solar Designer
2012-08-08  5:28     ` Rich Felker
2012-08-08  6:27       ` Solar Designer
2012-08-08  7:03         ` Daniel Cegiełka
2012-08-08  7:24           ` Solar Designer
2012-08-08  7:42             ` Daniel Cegiełka
2012-08-08 21:48           ` Rich Felker
2012-08-08 23:08             ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-08 23:24               ` John Spencer
2012-08-09  1:03                 ` Isaac Dunham
2012-08-09  3:16               ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09  3:36             ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09  7:13               ` orc
2012-08-09  7:28                 ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09  7:29               ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09 10:53                 ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09 11:58                   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-09 16:43                     ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09 17:30                       ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-09 18:22                       ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09 23:21                     ` Rich Felker
2012-08-10 17:04                       ` Solar Designer
2012-08-10 18:06                         ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09 21:46                   ` crypt_blowfish integration, optimization Rich Felker
2012-08-09 22:21                     ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09 22:32                       ` Rich Felker
2012-08-10 17:18                         ` Solar Designer
2012-08-10 18:08                           ` Rich Felker
2012-08-10 22:52                             ` Solar Designer
2012-08-08  7:52     ` crypt* files in crypt directory Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-08 13:06       ` Rich Felker
2012-08-08 14:30         ` orc
2012-08-08 14:53           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2012-08-08 15:05             ` orc
2012-08-08 18:10         ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09  1:51         ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09  3:25           ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09  4:04             ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09  5:48               ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09 15:52                 ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09 17:59                   ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09 21:17                   ` Rich Felker [this message]
2012-08-09 21:44                     ` Solar Designer
2012-08-09 22:08                       ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09 23:33           ` Rich Felker
2012-08-09  6:03   ` Rich Felker
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-07-17  9:40 Daniel Cegiełka
2012-07-17 17:51 ` Rich Felker

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